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UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE APPROVED
PLAN COMMISSION MEETING 12-10-03
WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 12,2003
Chairman Tom Lindblom called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Members present: Kerry Green, Clarence Holdiman, Al Trotsky, Anne Lucietto, Bill
Davis, Sandra Adams, Brian Schillinger, Michael Crouch, Andrew Kubala and Tom
Lindblom.
A quorum was established.
VISITORS
Mayor All Prochaska; City Planner Mike Schoppe, City Attorney Kelly Kramer, Rick
LaBerge, Ron Saballos, William Dawson, Jack Koteles, Kathy Koteles, Ralph LeGrand,
Gregg Ingemunson, Bruce Sperling,Pete Huinker,Mark Baker, Gary and LeLaLu
Maxwell, Gary and Susan Kritzberg, David Ihle, Richard Guerard, Lynn Dubajic, Chad
Gunderson, Tony Scott and John Whitehouse.
MINUTES
Minutes from the August 13, September 10 and October 8 meetings were approved.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. PC 2003-15 Richard and Valerie LaBerge petition to annex and rezone property
located at 11925 Route 34.
See attached.
2. PC 2003-16 Gary and LeLaLu Maxwell petition to annex and rezone property located
at 8710 Route 71.
See attached.
3. PC 2003-20 Gary and Susan Kritzberg petition to rezone property located at 308 N.
Bridge St.
See attached.
OLD BUSINESS
1. PC 2003-13 Runge Property: IRED Development Ventures, Inc. request to annex and
rezone.
Gary Weber, representing Mid-America and Inland, said the property is located at the
southwest corner of Baseline Road and Route 47. It covers 112 acres. Plans are to build a
development housing 342 units. Of those units, 153 of them would be townhomes and
189 would be single-family homes.
Weber said plans also include a 5.35-acre park and a 19.2-acre commercial area. He's
met with the Park District and the city's staff to get their input on the project. One of the
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staff s comments was to ease the radius on some roads to meet the 150-foot minimum for
cul-de-sacs. Also, he said there are 30-foot easements connecting to the commercial area.
As for landscaping, it was suggested the developer increase the buffer along Baseline
Road.
City Planner Mike Schoppe said the developers aren't sure yet exactly where the
commercial area will line up. Depending on how the site plan for the commercial area is
developed, there may need to be some modifications, he said.
Chairman Tom Lindblom commented that the commission previously recommended that
a roadway that runs next to the park should be the one that extends to Baseline Road and
not the second street over. Also, Commissioner Andrew Kubala commented that two road
stubs should go south rather than one. He suggested the stub go between the townhomes
and single-family residences.
Weber indicated the developers haven't met with the School Board yet on the
development. However, City Attorney Kelly Kramer said the School District would have
to sign off or be met with before an annexation agreement can be reached.
Schoppe said he recommends B-3 zoning on the commercial site subject to a satisfactory
annexation agreement to be negotiated by the City Council.
Kubala made a motion to annex the property as proposed for PC 2003-13. Commissioner
Clarence Holdiman seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously approved in a 10-
0 vote. Clarence Holdiman, Al Trotsky, Anne Lucietto, Bill Davis, Sandra Adams, Brian
Schillinger, Michael Crouch, Andrew Kubala, Kerry Green and Tom Lindblom voted
yes.
Kubala made a motion to accept the three categories for zoning as proposed for PC 2003-
13 subject an annexation agreement. Lucietto seconded the motion. The motion was
unanimously approved in a 10-0 vote. Trotsky, Lucietto, Davis, Adams, Schillinger,
Crouch, Kubala, Green, Holdiman and Lindblom voted yes.
NEW BUSINESS
1. PC 2003-15 Richard and Valerie LaBerge, petition to annex and rezone.
Lucietto made a motion to approve the annexation of PC 2003-15. Green seconded the
motion. The motion was unanimously approved by a 10-0 vote. Trotsky, Lucietto, Davis,
Adams, Schillinger, Crouch, Kubala, Green, Holdiman and Lindblom voted yes.
Lucietto then made a motion to accept B-3 zoning for PC 2003-15. Holdiman seconded
the motion. The motion was unanimously approved by a 10-0 vote. Lucietto, Davis,
Adams, Schillinger, Crouch, Kubala, Green, Holdiman, Trotsky and Lindblom voted yes.
2. PC 2003-16 Gary and LeLaLu Maxwell petition to annex and rezone.
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Kubala made a motion to approve the annexation as presented. Lucietto seconded the
motion. The motion was approved by a roll call vote of 9-0 with one abstention. Davis,
Adams, Schillinger, Crouch, Green, Holdiman, Trotsky, Lucietto and Lindblom voted
yes. Kubala abstained.
Lucietto made a motion to approve the rezoning as presented. Crouch seconded the
motion. The motion was approved by a roll call vote of 9-0 with one abstention. Adams,
Schillinger, Crouch, Green, Holdiman, Trotsky, Lucietto, Davis and Lindblom voted yes.
Kubala abstained.
3. PC 2003-20 Gary and Susan Kritzberg petition to rezone.
Kubala made a motion to rezone as presented. Lucietto seconded the motion. The motion
failed by a vote of 2-7 with one abstention. Davis and Lindblom voted yes. Schillinger,
Crouch, Kubala, Green, Holdiman, Trotsky and Lucietto voted no. Adams abstained.
Commissioner Brian Schillinger said he has concerns about giving a straight B-3 zoning
to that property. If the Kritzberg's were to sell in the future, he said there's nothing
preventing a strip mall in the area if the homes adjacent to the ones the Kritzberg's own
were to be bought.
He said he'd rather see a special use permit for the property. After Route 47 is widened,
then he might be more willing to approve a B-3 zoning. Kramer said a special use permit
goes with the land.
Schoppe said that when the city's staff met with Susan Kritzberg, she said she might be
interested in a development agreement. Mrs. Kritzberg said she was interested in a
possible agreement, however, she didn't know exactly what the staff was talking about.
Gary Kritzberg, however, said because the road is becoming a commercial strip, he
doesn't think looking at restrictive zoning at this time is appropriate.
Commissioner Kerry Green said he shares concerns expressed by Schillinger. He
wonders what would happen to the property if the Kritzberg's decide to sell. He,
however, has no problem with the Kritzbergs' intended use for the property. He said what
they're doing is wonderful.
Kubala also commented that there were some strong local objections submitted at the
public hearing.
Lindblom said he has the sense that the Kritzbergs are in a hurry to move their business
out of their home and start it in the new location. Kramer said if the Kritzbergs decided to
apply for a special use permit, they would not need to republish which would save time.
Kubala suggested the Plan Commission vote down the recommendation to approve the
rezoning and made a recommendation for a special use permit. Susan Kritzberg said she's
not clear on what a special use permit would restrict her business to. She asked what the
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special use tag would mean to her. Kramer said a special use permit stays with the
property. If, in the future,the Kritzberg's wanted to sell, the potential new owners would
have to put in a request to rezone if they wanted to use the property for other purposes.
Kubala made a recommendation for a B-2 special use permit for the property. Lucietto
seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously approved in a roll call vote. Crouch,
Kubala, Green, Holdiman, Trotsky, Lucietto, Davis, Adams, Schillinger and Lindblom
voted yes.
4. PC 2002-22 Kylyns's Ridge Phase 2 - Final Plat.
Schoppe said a few minor changes still need to be made. The staff's recommendation is
to approve the final plat.
Kubala made a motion to approve the final plat for PC 2002-22 subject to staff
comments. Lucietto seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously approved.
Kubala, Green, Holdiman, Trotsky, Lucietto, Davis, Adams, Schillinger, Crouch and
Lindblom voted yes.
5. PC 2003-23 Raintree Village Units 2 and 3 —Final Plat.
Schoppe said the staff recommends final plat approval subject to staff comments.
Rich Guerard said earthwork needs to be done on all three sites at the same time in order
for them to balance properly. He also said that if the School District were to need the land
set aside for the district,the developers would convey that property at any time.
Green made a motion to approve the final plat for PC 2003-23 subject to staff comments
and concern. Lucietto seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously approved.
Green, Holdiman, Trotsky, Lucietto, Davis, Adams, Schillinger, Crouch, Kubala and
Lindblom voted yes.
6. PC 2003-24 Silver Fox Subdivision—Concept Plan.
Mark Baker presented the plan, which calls for a residential development on 102 acres.
The property is not contiguous with the city limits. When it is contiguous, he said the
developers would make sure they go through the proper channels.
The proposed development would feature 187 single-family homes on lots averaging
14,000 square feet in size. The property drains from east to west. Baker said the
developers would like to take advantage of the natural character of the land and would
feature a larger consolidated open space.
The design of the proposed subdivision includes curbing linear streets and windows or
openings to the open spaces. Baker said there is access to the open spaces throughout the
neighborhood.
Developers have met with city staff and the Park Board. Baker said the Park Board wants
a 4 to 5 acre park in the southeast corner with thoughts that as other property develops,
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that park could become a regional park. Baker said the developers are opposed to the
location because a larger park that would potentially host tournaments would produce
more traffic. He said the developers prefer a neighborhood park for this development.
Commissioner Michael Crouch said he agrees with the developer and said it doesn't
make sense to have the regional park in the suggested location. Schoppe said he would
talk with the Park Board to get clarification on what their idea for that area is.
Kubala said he's concerned there's only one outlet on Fox Road. He said there has to be
two outlets for a subdivision of this size. Baker, however, said trying to come up with a
second outlet has been difficult because of where existing streets on the road are located.
Lindblom said maybe the time isn't right for this development. Maybe, he said,
development needs to come from the city out.
Schoppe said the subdivision is planned in an area marked estate in the Comprehensive
Plan. The estate subdivisions call for homes on 1.5 acres or less. Lindblom added he's
concerned about the proposed density of the development.
Green said the city's Comprehensive Plan put estate subdivisions in this area because the
property cannot be serviced by the city's water and sewer yet and the development would
need septic tanks and wells.
Schoppe said the city has plans to extend the sewer lines to the area. However,there is a
gap that would need to be completed first.
Schoppe then asked commissioners as a whole on how they felt about certain issues.
Without taking any votes,the general consensus of the commission was that the density
was too great and there needs to be two entrances on Fox Road. The commissioners did
not have a problem with the residential use for the area,the open space or the planned
product of single-family homes.
Kubala said the commission has turned down other requests based on the same concerns.
He, too, indicated the timing might not be right for this development.
Schoppe said the developers could hold off on the development of a lot on Fox Road to
create an emergency access way,temporarily. However, he said that would not address
the issue of volume of traffic.
7. PC 2003-25 Corner Stone—Concept Plan
Mark Baker said the property consists of 36 acres at the intersection of Route 47 and
Greenbriar. He said the city currently approved a preliminary plan on the parcel for 22
acres zone R-3 and 14 acres zoned B-3.
Now,the developer is seeking rezoning to add depth to the commercial area, which
would allow the possibility of a larger anchor store to come in.
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The residential portion calls for detached single-family homes on lot sizes of a minimum
of 10,000 square feet and an average of 12,600 square feet. There would be a 30 foot
buffer area between the commercial and residential sections.
Lucietto asked how the property would line up to existing property. Baker said the
developer's intention is to line up.
Lindblom asked why the lot sizes are not a minimum of 12,000 square feet. Baker
responded that under R-3 zoning 10,000 square foot lots are allowed.
ADDITIONAL BUSINESS
Mayor Art Prochaska said he has asked the City Council to consider reducing the number
of members on the Plan Commission to 9. He said the city's Plan Commission is larger
than similar boards in other cities. Generally, Plan Commissions have seven or eight
members;the Yorkville Plan Commission has 13. By reducing the number of
commissioners, Prochaska said it would also be easier to make a quorum.
The meeting adjourned at 9:30 p.m.
Minutes respectfully submitted by Dina Gipe
STATE OF ILLINOIS )
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COUNTY OF KENDALL )
BEFORE THE UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE
PLAN COMMISSION
PUBLIC HEARING FOR
PC2003 -15 , PC2003 -16
and
PC2003 -20
REPORT OF PROCEEDINGS had at the meeting
of the above-entitled matter, taken before Nicola
Gengler, C . S . R . , No . 84-3780 , on November 12 , 2003 , at
the hour of 7 : 00 p . m. , at 800 Game Farm Road,
Yorkville , Illinois .
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1 PRESENT: 1 (Whereupon proceedings were
2 MR. TOM LIDDBLOM, Chairman; 2 had which are not herein
3 MS. SANDRA ADAMS; 3 transcribed.)
4 MR. MICHAEL CROUCH; 4 MR. LINDBLOM: Motion passes. At this
5 MR. BILL DAVIS; 5 time, I'd ask the public that anybody that thinks they
6 MR. KERRY GREEN; 6 might have questions or concerns for the Comnission or
7 MR. ANDREW KUBALA; 7 for the petitioner if you now stand and raise your
8 MS. ANNE LUCIETTO; 8 right hand and take the oath.
9 MR. CLARENCE HOLDIMAN; 9 (Whereupon the audience
10 MR. BRIAN SCHILLINGER; 10 members were duly sworn.)
11 MR. AL TROTSKY; 11 MR. LINDBLOM: Thank you. The first is
12 MR. MIKE SCHOPPE; City Planner 12 PC2003-15, Richard and Valerie LaBerge, petitioners
13 MS. DINA GIPE, Minute Taker; 13 have filed an application -- I am not going to read all
14 and 14 of this.
15 LAW OFFICES OF DANIEL J. KRAMER 15 It is rezoning from Kendall County
1107A South Bridge Street
16 Yorkville, Illinois 60560 16 A-1, Agriculture, to United City of Yorkville B-3,
BY: MS. KELLY KRAMER,
17 appeared on behalf of the United City of 17 Service Business District. The property consists of
Yorkville.
18 is approximately three acres at 11935 Route 34, Bristol
19 19 Township, Kendall County, Illinois.
20 20 Who is going to present this on
21 21 behalf of the LaBerges?
22 22 MR. LA BERGE: I am Richard LaBerge, and I
23 23 come to the United City of Yorkville for Ag-1,
24 24 Agricultural, to B-3, Service Business District.
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1 I filed an application in August. 1 am a friend of Mr. LaBerge. I am helping him through
2 That would be three acres approximately at 2 the process, through the approval process.
3 11925 Route 34. 3 The purpose of his being here today
4 MR. LIND13LOM: 11925? 4 is for zoning and annexation to the City of Yorkville
5 MR. LA BERGE: Correct. That would be in 5 for a B-3 zoning. We believe that is consistent with
6 Bristol Township, Kendall County, Illinois. 6 the intended zoning in the area. It is consistent with
7 MR. LINDBLOM: Okay. Is there -- just for 7 the comprehensive plan, and what we are here to do is
8 everyone's information, this is a property that is 8 to seek annexation and rezoning from Ag-1 in the County
9 basically at the corner of Eldamain, the northeast 9 to B-3 in the City of Yorkville subject to an
10 corner of Eldamain and Route 34. 10 annexation agreement.
11 MR. LA BERGE. Correct, approximately 11 So we ask for your recommendation
12 200 feet off the corner. There is one piece of 12 for approval. Thank you, very much.
13 property -- this is two pieces of property. Each have 13 MR. LINDBLOM: Thank you, Ron.
14 a hundred plus feet before 400 feet of frontage. 14 MS. KRAMER: And just for everybody's
15 MR. LINDBLOM: Okay. Is there anybody 15 information, there is a boundary agreement with Plano
16 present who has any questions for the petitioner or 16 as to where the boundary of the City of Yorkville will
17 concerns that the Commission ought to hear? 17 be. This does comply with that boundary agreement.
18 (NO response.) 18 MR. LINDBLOM: If I could just ask one more
19 MR. LINDBLOM: Hearing none, I thank you. 19 time, is there anybody else from the public that has
20 we will come back to this. 20 comments on this petition?
21 MR. SABALIJJS: Could I make a comment? 21 (NO response.)
22 MR. LINDBLOM: Sure. Your name for the 22 MR. LINDBLOM: Okay. Thank you.
23 record. 23 Item No. 2 in our public hearing,
24 MR. SABALLUS: My name is Ron Saballus. I 24 PC2003-16. This is the feed store located on Route 71.
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1 They are asking for annexation and rezoning from A-1, 1 [rove on to Item 3, PC 2003-20, Gary and Susan
2 Agriculture special use to the United City of 2 Kritzberg. They are requesting rezoning from the
3 Yorkville, B-3, Service Business District. 3 United City of Yorkville, R-2, One-Family Residence
4 The property consists of 4 District, to the United City of Yorkville B-2, General
5 approximately 6.21 acres at 8710 Route 71, Kendall 5 Business District. The property is located at
6 Township, Kendall County, Illinois. 6 308 North Bridge Street, Yorkville, Kendall County,
7 Who is present for this? 7 Illinois.
8 Mr. Maxwell? 8 This property is across from the
9 MR. MAXWELL: Yes. I am Gary Maxwell, the 9 City park right next to the Pride Convenient Store, and
10 owner out there, and I have got the feed store located 10 who is presenting?
11 on the property right now, and we are looking to sell 11 MS. KRITZBERG: (Indicating.)
12 the property and moving farther out. 12 MR. LINDBLOM: Susan?
13 we have got a couple of interests in 13 Susan, I am told I need to swear you
14 it of keeping it as a feed store and also putting in 14 in. You didn't stand up.
15 possible landscaping nursery garden center out there, 15 MS. KRITZBERG: Yes, I didn't. I am sorry.
16 and we are located there at the corner of Wayne Road 16 MR. LINDBLOM: Let's do it real quick.
17 and 71, KGS Feed and Tack. we have been there for 17 (The audience member was
18 17 years. We are filing an application for rezoning 18 thereupon duly sworn.)
19 for the property to B-3 and annexing to the village. 19 MR. LINDBLOM: Okay. You are on.
20 MR. LINDBLOM: Okay. Thank you. At this 20 MS. KRITZBERG: I am Susan Kritzberg. I am
21 time, is there any questions or comments for 21 here on behalf of myself and my husband, Gary.
22 Mr. Maxwell? 22 Our request as you mentioned is to
23 (No response.) 23 have this piece of property located at 308 North Bridge
24 MR. LINDBLOM: Okay. Hearing none, we will 24 Street which is right on the corner of Center Street
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1 and Route 47 next to the Pride Pantry across from the 1 I live at 107 East Main Street in Yorkville. I am what
2 City park. It is currently zoned residential to single 2 you might consider a backdoor neighbor to this
3 family housing and we would like to have that rezoned 3 property.
4 to B-2. 4 I am concerned -- I oppose the
5 Our intention is to move the 5 rezoning from residential to business because I believe
6 business that we currently operate out of our hone 6 it is going to create more traffic on 47 and more
7 called Accessible Living, LTD., into this location. 7 traffic on our little side streets.
8 It is a business that provides 8 I oppose the rezoning because I
9 services and equipment for people with disabilities. 9 don't want to have a view from my backyard of a parking
10 We do installations of equipment such as stair glides, 10 lot, another parking lot, full of delivery vans,
11 transfer systems, porch lifts, those kinds of things 11 storage trailers and miscellaneous vehicles.
12 for people with disabilities. We also sell wheelchairs 12 I oppose it because I feel
13 and do custom wheelchairs. 13 businesses in a residential area detract from our
14 Our intention would be to use the 14 family hones, and I believe that our neighborhoods
15 location as our office space and also to develop a 15 should say residential.
16 small showroom and retail area in conjunction with 16 I oppose the rezoning because I
17 that. 17 think that it is not only going to detract from the
18 MR. LINDBLOM: Okay. Is there any is homes in the immediate area, it will be a detriment to
19 questions or concerns for Susan? 19 the hones across -- around Town Square Park to the park
20 MS. KOTELES: I have concerns, but I don't 20 itself. I think that any more bright lights, gaudy
21 know they are necessarily questions though. 21 signs -- and I am not saying that you guys are going to
22 MR. LINDBLOM: Okay. Please come forward 22 do this, but littered parking lots are not attractive.
23 and state your name. 23 I don't want to see anymore lawns or gardens covered by
24 MS. KOTELES: My name is Kathy Koteles, and 24 asphalt and concrete.
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1 I oppose the rezoning because once 1 they would like to see Yorkville be like a Geneva or a
2 it is rezoned for business, it always will be that way; 2 Long Grove, but I say look around. Most of the hones
3 and I also am opposed to anymore of the highway being 3 are not of that vintage or style. We are a
4 rezoned to business because while that is increasing 4 working-class neighborhood with modest homes. we are
5 the value of those properties along the highway, I fear 5 just people who want to live peacefully in our little
6 that those who aren't zoned business, that those 6 abodes without the hubbub of business.
7 property values could decrease. 7 Where do you Commission members
8 I oppose the rezoning of anymore 8 live? How would you like a shop in your neighborhood,
9 property on 47 or around Town Square Park because it 9 next door or in your backyard? It is not a pleasant
10 will have an adverse affect on the residents. I and 40 10 thought, and I will present this petition to you.
11 of my neighbors have sided a petition to this affect. 11 MR. LINDBLOM: There was a question I was
12 We would like our neighborhoods to stay residential. 12 going to ask. Is this the first that this has been
13 We do not want anymore businesses for neighbors. 13 submitted, the petition?
14 There are plenty of areas in the 14 MS. KOTELES: Yes. Thank you.
15 City set up for business and more occurring everyday. 15 MR. LINDBLOM: Okay. Are there any other
16 The Menards area, the Market Place area, downtown and 16 comments on that?
17 numerous strip malls. They are all geared for 17 MR. LE GRAND: Good evening everybody. I
18 business. Our neighborhood is an established area that 18 hope I am not as nervous as I was Monday since I came
19 was meant to house people in their homes. 19 here. It's been a while since I have been up in front
20 our homes are our havens, our refuge 20 of people.
21 and our little piece of the American dream. We never 21 MR. LINDBLOM: State your name for the
22 dreamed that we would have to share them with more 22 record, please.
23 businesses. 23 MR. LE GRAND: Ralph LeGrand. I live right
24 It has been mentioned by some that 24 behind Town Square Park.
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1 MR. LINDBLOM: When you say right behind 1 decide that though.
2 Town Square Park -- 2 Basically what I am trying to say is
3 MR. LE GRAND: Right on the corner. 3 I think we need to take a look at what type of
4 MR. LINDBLOM: Which direction? 4 businesses we may want to allow to go in along
5 MR. LE GRAND: Kitty-corner from the 5 Route 47. I was here on Monday, and there was some
6 historical church, the old Steinwart residence. I call 6 comments made especially on 34 and 47, how that area is
7 it the green acres. 7 going to be developed and laid out, presented as our
8 MR. LINDBLOM: Across from the northwest 8 north entrance into the City.
9 corner of the park? 9 In the short time I have been here
10 MR. LE GRAND: Correct. I have a pretty 10 and reading about things, I understand that the Fox
11 good view of that business that is going across. 11 River is going to be redone with stepping stone type of
12 Some of my comments may be 12 dams. It sounds like a nice area from that point of
13 questions. Some of mine may be statements; but from 13 the City.
14 what I am reading and living in the area for a short 14 So if you look at one end, the south
15 period of time, I understand that road is going to be 15 and the north, and you got the middle. What is going
16 widened, meaning Route 47 for residential; and once 16 to happen to that middle area as far as what type of
17 that road is widened if it ever is, I can see there is 17 businesses are going to go in there? Are we going to
18 going to be a problem trying to sleep at night or have 18 want to have people with trailers parked in there of
19 children out there with the highway. 19 the business that they are going to do there in plain
20 So my opinion is I am not against 20 site of not only the passing motorists but that park
21 business because I don't know what else you would do 21 has a lot of activities.
22 with that area unless a state or the town of Yorkville 22 I love the town so far. I love the
23 decides to demolish, tear down and grasp a little area 23 activities in the park. I think it's growing pretty
24 that is going to be left. I am not in that position to 24 rapidly in the short time I have been here, but I would
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1 like to see maybe more attention put towards what type 1 continue like they say with the development on 34 and
2 of businesses are going to be approved to go in that 2 47 be very presentable as our north entrance. I'd like
3 area, like I say between the south and the north end, 3 to see the main area especially around the Town Square
4 and do we have City Council members or the people here 4 Park given sae more thought as far as what type of
5 tonight that can say, yes, you can go in or, no, you 5 businesses we allow. Maybe other areas of the town can
6 can't go in? 6 take in businesses that maybe may have trucks or
7 Once it is rezoned for business, 7 trailers parked and do this handicap business if that
8 does that mean -- hopefully it won't happen, but if a 8 is going to be happening.
9 business like that wants to go in, a handicap, and goes 9 So as it stands right now, I don't
10 out of business, an Eat At Joe's sign goes up, and I 10 favor looking across the park or when we have people in
11 see that flashing right in front of my window. 11 the park looking at what may be standing across the
12 I don't know what the restrictions 12 street -- I have a question for some of you and I don't
13 are with the number of signs on the businesses going 13 know if you have an answer; but if that business opens
14 up. Some of the businesses I know already that exist 14 up, how many parking slots are allowed for that area
15 are very presentable. One I know that has recently 15 because I can't see myself an awful lot of parking
16 went up, there is not much wall left on the front of 16 places on that street once it is widened?
17 the business to put a sign. 17 Is there a certain amount of parking
18 So it is like I am glad the City 18 slots allowed for that type of business there; and if
19 Council came and started some type of architectural 19 there is -- go ahead. I am sorry.
20 overlay to lay the ground rules; but after reading the 20 MS. KRAMER: No, keep going.
21 paper and myself -- I apologize for not being here on 21 MR. LE GRAND: I thought you had the
22 the 28th meeting. I think we needed more input from 22 answer.
23 the residents and the people who live in Yorkville. 23 MR. LINDBLOM: I am going to come back to
24 I would like to see Yorkville 24 you with some of your questions.
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1 MR. LE GRAND: If there is, in the short 1 through there.
2 period of time in that location traffic is heavy. If 2 So the handicap place maybe picked
3 that road goes to a four-lane highway, it is going to 3 that location because of the way our traffic goes
4 be much heavier. 4 through that area including our school buses. So there
5 Especially after I found out the 5 has to be some type of traffic control I think not only
6 bridge that they put on Orchard is not structurally 6 if that business goes in but any other future
7 strong enough to hold semi trucks or cement trucks that 7 businesses.
8 will be passing by all the time. That means we will 8 Again, I am not against businesses,
9 get more traffic unless IDOT uses a little more sense 9 but I think we need to think about what type we are
10 on the next bridge they build that would be west of us, 10 allowing going in along that highway. Thank you.
11 makes a little more sturdier or heavy-duty bridge to 11 MR. LINDBLOM: Okay. I think when we have
12 take that heavy truck traffic. 12 discussion on this, I think a number of your questions
13 If that bridge doesn't, 47 is stuck 13 are going to be answered.
14 with all of this truck traffic; and this area is 14 I do want to answer just one right
15 growing; and it is growing fast, the next Naperville is 15 now for clarification for everybody here on all three
16 what I hear. 16 of these petitions. You asked if City Council members
17 So if you have handicap people that 17 were here to make the decision. I believe it was one
18 may visit this site, for example, if the parking isn't 18 of your questions. The City Council is not here. The
19 there, what is going to happen with them trying to get 19 Mayor is here to listen to this.
20 the view of products they may have in the store that 20 what we -- our role in all three of
21 they are selling; and when that school or these schools 21 these is to make a recommendation to the City Council,
22 are let out and these kids from the high school are let 22 and they then -- they are the ones then to make the
23 out, my grand-kids that I have, I pull then in between 23 final decision. So the fact that they are not here
24 3:00 and quarter to 4:00, guys. It is a speedway 24 tonight doesn't mean that they are not interested or
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1 not involved in this. Our role is to make a 1 When I moved into this area, I
2 recommendation to them, and then they act on it. 2 bought this hare because it was residential; and I
3 So I just wanted to clarify that 3 understand change; but I wouldn't have bought in this
4 point on that. Specifically we are going to come back 4 area if I knew it was business; but the area across
5 and answer sore of your questions on parking and so on. 5 from me are more homes all fall behind us. I know a
6 MR. LE GRAND: Okay. Love your town. 6 lot of times the concern is what is out on the front of
7 MR. LINDBLOM: I am glad you are happy. 7 the road. It is all of us that live back of the
8 Sue, do you care to axmient at this 8 property. It will affect more than just me. It is
9 time or do you want to wait until we -- 9 other neighbors, and if there is not -- I have heard
10 MS. KRITZBERG: Well, if there is more 10 about an overlay ordinance.
11 people with concerns, I'd be happy to hear that and 11 I don't ]mow why maybe things should
12 then comment on it all; but I certainly can answer some 12 be slowed down or stopped on this zoning until there is
13 of his answers. 13 something out there on the ordinance that shows us what
14 MR. LINDBLOM: Do I see another hand up 14 we are going to be living in because as it keeps
15 here? Yes, sir? 15 passing, you know, I don't know what is caning up; and
16 MR. DAWSON: My name is Bill Dawson. I 16 I just know that property -- I can be here any time and
17 live on 711 Bristol Street in the third ward and the 17 know that property is going to be rezoned. I see what
18 property in the 700 block of North Bridge joins my 18 is happening. Those duplexes, you can look at them,
19 property which if you are familiar it is the white 19 and it is easy to see how you can convert them into
20 duplexes, the brick white duplexes. I am behind one of 20 business. There is quite a bit of property open behind
21 them, and I have noticed there has been a change in 21 me, and I am afraid I am going to be sitting on my
22 effect here in the last year, year and a half, more and 22 patio and what am I looking at when I bought in a
23 more property. I have already seen other property 23 residential area, and next thing I know I see parking
24 change. Now here's another one. 24 lot, a bunch of cars, when I am in my yard.
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1 So that is all I ask is recomnend 1 to the City of Yorkville.
2 maybe slow down the zoning until we see sane -- I mean, 2 This has always been my town, and I
3 that shows us what protects us as homeowners in there. 3 have always taken a great deal of pride in whatever I
4 Thank you. 4 have been able to contribute to that. So please
5 MR. LINDBLOM: Okay. Thank you. 5 understand that our intention is certainly not to
6 Is there anybody else that would 6 create a business or a property that would not be an
7 care to speak? 7 asset to any neighborhood.
8 (No response.) 8 One of the questions, sir, I think
9 MR. LINDBLOM: Susan, do you care to 9 you had about parking -- it is my understanding that
10 comment? 10 within the next number of years, the project to widen
11 MS. KRITZBERG: Sure, I can. 11 Route 47 will, in fact, happen. There have been
12 Do I have to speak into the 12 tremendous anount of engineering work and so forth
13 microphone? 13 going towards that. I think it is a matter of when the
14 MR. LINDBLOM: Can you hear her? 14 state puts it on their budget. You can visit here and
15 THE REPORTER: Yes. 15 you can look at the plats that are prepared for that
16 MS. KRITZBERG: The first thing I'd like to 16 project.
17 say is that you may or may not know that I am a 17 If you look at them, you will see
18 Yorkville native. I have lived here all my life. I 18 that the road widening will put the edge of the highway
19 grew up on the corner of Game Farm Road and Route 34 19 10 feet into our property. So try to imagine that
20 and that is where I still live. I am very sensitive to 20 property with an infringement now of 10 feet. It
21 the kinds of growth issues that are happening here in 21 brings the road very, very close to the front of that
22 Yorkville; and I think because of that, the last thing 22 building.
23 that I would want to do would be to create a situation 23 I think that it is at that time,
24 that would be viewed as a problem area or not an asset 24 whether it is four years or six years or whenever that
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1 is done, I think it is going to be unlikely that most 1 usage of it.
2 residents are going to want to live under those 2 In addition to that in order to meet
3 conditions, the noise, the danger, all of those things. 3 the requirements that the City has for businesses
4 Whether we as individuals like what 4 adjacent to residential properties, we also have to
5 is happening to our community with the growth, it is 5 meet some very stringent guidelines under the
6 going to happen. I have watched it around my property. 6 landscaping ordinance; and we are working on that now;
7 I have been discouraged by some of it; but in the end, 7 but please understand that what you see right now is
8 I think it is something that is lust part of the growth 8 just the beginning efforts.
9 of a comaurity; and that is what is happening to us 9 Honestly right now, I have comutted
10 now. 10 to over $6,000 worth of trees that will be put in in
11 Our intention is to enhance this 11 the next couple of weeks to enhance the property and
12 piece of property, not only to benefit our business but 12 begin to create the visual barriers that are required
13 to also be an asset to the neighborhood. The parking 13 to meet these landscaping requirements. We have to
14 will not be in the front of the business. There will 14 provide buffered areas.
15 be no street parking to my knowledge in terms of it 15 Lighting for this parking area will
16 being on a like they pull off in front of the park to 16 be residential in nature. It is not going to look like
17 get a hot dog or things like that. 17 a Kmart parking lot. The signage that we intend to put
18 We intend to develop some parking 18 in -- and I understand something might happen. We may
19 areas in the back. The property that we have already 19 chose to sell the property in a number of years,
20 has a rather large asphalt driveway. We simply want to 20 certainly not in the near future, but it will be -- not
21 expand upon that in some areas to create the required 21 fluorescent, not plastic, nothing like that. It will
22 parking that we have to meet in order to, you know, 22 be nicely hand-painted or laser-cut wooden sign with
23 meet the business requirements. That would be seven 23 spotlights on it. It will be landscaped nicely.
24 parking spaces for the size of our building and the 24 Our intention is maintain as much of
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1 the residential nature of the property as possible and 1 on some of those kinds of things whether it is painting
2 provide a location that we can conduct business. 2 the porch -- we have resided, re-shingled, replaced the
3 Yeah, you currently see some things 3 garage door. It is like a brand new garage. We have
4 parked there. It is because we just have an overload 4 done that so that it fits in with the flavor of the
5 in our driveway at home right now. We can't conduct 5 rest of the neighborhood. I think it has enhanced the
6 business out there because obviously the zoning is not 6 property-
7 complete, but we are using it which we can do as a 7 I have already put a fair number of
8 residence. There is nothing that restricts us from 8 new shrubs and bushes in, and it is just the beginning
9 putting a trailer or parking a vehicle in the driveway. 9 of what we are doing. Our parking areas will require
10 Our intention is not to have those 10 bushes around them and those kinds of things. So you
11 helter-skelter around the lot or the yard or anything. 11 may still have concerns about it or about the
12 They will have their appropriate place, and typically 12 possibility of a business that may care along after we
13 there may be one or two vehicles with our logo on the 13 have left for sane reason, but I want you to be assured
14 side. They are minivans, and those things will all be 14 that our intention is to improve on that piece of
15 obscured eventually by the growth of the landscaping 15 property and that is what we are working at right now.
16 that we are required to put around there. 16 MR. LE GRAND: May I call you Tom?
17 So it is our intention, you know, to 17 MR. LINDBLOM: If you can step forward,
18 meet the requirements of the City. However, as you can 18 please.
19 imagine, it can't just all be done right away; and we 19 MR. LE GRAND: Do I have to --
20 have the issue of the cold weather caning on. So some 20 MR. LINDBLOM: Can you hear him well
21 of it will need to be put off until spring. That is 21 enough?
22 acceptable. We have gotten permission to do that; but 22 THE REPORTER: He can care up.
23 as a residence, I felt that it needed some esthetic 23 MR. LE GRAND: My wife does that at home,
24 improvement right away; and we have been trying to work 24 care.
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1 My main concern was also like I 1 we don't even run our business with a showroom or a
2 stated earlier was not to be anti-business, but I grew 2 retail area; and, you know, we have people who would
3 up on the south side, 95th Street, the businesses were 3 like to be able to put their eyes on the equipment that
4 not that close to the highway to the side and make 4 we sell before it gets to their door. They would like
5 three lanes on each side. 5 to see how something works. They would like to come in
6 The businesses are smashed up 6 and, you know, just have a look at this or that.
7 against or the highways smashed up against the 7 In terms of being a high-volume
8 businesses. Safety-wise -- I am laying in bed last 8 retail business, I don't believe this will ever become
9 night listening to the wife -- don't put this down -- 9 a high-volume retail business. It is just not the
10 snoring, and I am looking at the ceiling and I am 10 primary part of what we do. We do a huge amount of
11 saying, my God, the way this traffic is going to 11 state-funded installation work. We do a lot of private
12 increase because of this town expanding and that 12 work.
13 particular time the school let out and everybody like 13 Our job is primarily to be on site,
14 this -- you stated you had seven parking slots. God 14 but we have been running this out of our home for five
15 forbid, something happens with me. I will probably 15 years, and it's just gotten to be quite a trying
16 need to go to a facility like you for whatever. 16 situation. Our staff has grown. Our needs have become
17 What will that cause people after 17 greater; and like all businesses, exposure is an
is they fill up the seven slots? Parking on the park site 18 important thing; and for us, we would like to get a
19 to walk across and then how do you get across that 19 little more exposure; and as I said, I have watched
20 four-lane highway when I can't get across it now before 20 Yorkville for a long, long time turn from a tiny sleepy
21 buildings have gone up? 21 little town that where I lived was the edge of nowhere.
22 MS. KRITZBERG: well, I certainly can't 22 I could stand on Route 34 for 10 minutes probably and
23 predict what kind of business we have. As a business 23 not have a car pass. Now, I have to go on the good
24 person, I want plenty of people to come; but right now 24 graces of a string of traffic to let me out of my
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1 driveway. That is just the way things have changed. 1 be more selective of what type of businesses go along
2 You know, I am not thrilled with it as most of us who 2 this highway.
3 have lived here a long titre. It is part of the way 3 MS. KRITZBERG: Well, do you think this is
4 things are waving. 4 not a fit business for that?
5 With the expansion of Route 47 if we 5 MR. LE GRAND: If you are busy, I bet your
6 like it or not, it is most likely going to occur; and 6 shoes that you are standing in right now people are
7 when that happens, those homes are not going to be very 7 going to be trying to cross that highway in wheelchairs
8 livable. I would say in my defense better you have a 8 or where --
9 business like ours come in and start to try to set a 9 MS. KRITZBERG: well, there is nowhere for
10 standard for something that does fit into the 10 them to park --
11 neighborhood and, you know, with our intentions, you 11 MR. LE GRAND: I have truck drivers that
12 know, to be as sensitive to that as possible than to 12 park sometimes at night surrounded with people --
13 just have sane other business come along and whatever 13 MS. KRITZBERG: You know, I can't really
14 they may bring with them. 14 speak --
15 You know, I think it is -- look at 15 MR. LINDBLOM: Excuse me, please. I would
16 what the Pride Pantry is. That wouldn't get approved 16 just ask we not keep rehashing for the benefit of the
17 today and certainly we have issues when we look at 17 public hearing the same points over and over, again.
18 that, and I think, my gosh, look at that and then we 18 I think the main concern that was
19 have a million different kinds of things that we have 19 made was a concern about parking, made a concern -- I
20 to m=et the requirements of which is a very good thing 20 am going to ask our consultant here to talk about a
21 that the City is not allowing those kinds of things to 21 number of things as part of the public hearing so it is
22 go in anymore but, you know -- 22 part of the record. We are going to come back and
23 MR. LE GRAND: The main thing I was trying 23 discuss this, again.
24 to say from the beginning was that I think we have to 24 I just would ask if there is any new
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1 concerns, let's express them now; but I don't want to 1 reviewed, approved. If there is any modification to
2 keep going over the same things. 2 the building as you see in some of the paper work that
3 MR. LE GRAND: I am okay. 3 has been submitted, that has to go through the building
4 MR. LINDBLOM: Okay. Thank you. 4 department.
5 MR. LE GRAND: Thank you. 5 So there is a process by which the
6 MR. LINDBLOM: Anything else? 6 plans that she would like to actually build would get
7 MS. KRITZBERG: No. That is all for me. 7 reviewed to see that they conform to the standard of
8 MR. LIND13LOM: Okay. We will come back. 8 the B-2 zoning district and the building codes.
9 Mike, No. 1, could I ask you: Do 9 MR. LINDBLOM: B-2 zoning is limited. It
10 all three of those petitions conform to the 10 is not just because it is granted business that means
11 comprehensive plan? 11 any business can go in there; correct?
12 MR. SCHOPPE: Yes, they do. All three 12 MR. SCHOPPE: Correct, not any business
13 conform to the comprehensive plan. 13 could go in there just because it is B-2. It is
14 MR. LINDBLOM: Specifically with this last 14 restrictive, not allowing certain types of business
15 petition, can you talk a little bit about the City's 15 uses. That's correct.
16 requirements for landscaping and parking, anything else 16 MR. LINDBLOM: Any other comments at this
17 that has to be done to this property to bring it into 17 point, Mike?
18 conformity. 18 MR. SCHOPPE: No.
19 MR. SCHOPPE: Yes. What Susan is 19 MR. LINDBLOM: Is there any other comments
20 requesting is a change in zoning to B-2. 20 on this petition?
21 Now, if the City were to grant that 21 (No response.)
22 zoning and if Susan wants to do what her plans are, she 22 MR. LINDBLOM: Okay. Hearing none. At
23 has got to go through a process of having a site plan 23 this point, can I have a motion to close the public
24 submitted, reviewed, approved, landscape plans, 24 hearing on this.
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1 MR. GREEN: So moved. 1 STATE OF ILLINOIS )
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2 MR. KUBALA: Second. 2 COUNTY OF KENDALL )
3 MR. LINDBLOM: Moved and seconded. 3 I, Nicola Gengler, C.S.R., No. 84-3780, do
4 Any further discussion on the 4 hereby certify that the proceedings had in the
5 motion? 5 above-entitled cause were recorded stenographically by
6 (No response.) 6 me and reduced to typewriting via corputer-aided
7 MR. LINDBLOM: Hearing none, those in favor 7 transcription under my personal direction; and that the
8 signify by saying aye. 8 foregoing is a true and correct transcript of the
9 (Whereupon there were a 9 proceedings had at the time and place previously
10 course of ayes.) 10 specified.
11 MR. LINDBLOM: Opposed? 11 IN WITNESS WHEREOF I have hereunto set my
12 (No response.) 12 hand this 19th day of November, 2003.
13 MR. LINDBLOM: The public hearing is now 13
14 closed. 14
ico a Gengler, C.S.R.
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