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UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE APPROVED
PLAN COMMISSION MEETING 2-11-04
WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 12, 2003
Chairman Tom Lindblom called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Members present: Kerry Green, Anne Lucietto, Bill Davis, Sandra Adams, Brian
Schillinger, Jack Jones, Michael Crouch, Andrew Kubala and Tom Lindblom.
A quorum was established.
VISITORS
Mayor Art Prochaska; City Planner Mike Schoppe; Alderman Rich Sticka; Kelly Kramer,
representing the city attorney's office; John Whitehouse, from Engineering Enterprises,
Inc.; Art Zwemke; president and CEO of Moser Enterprises, Inc.; Tim Winter; project
manager for Pasquinelli Development Group, Inc.; Wendy Yaksich, manager of
entitlement for Moser Enterprises, Inc.; and Brian Urban from Cowhey, Gudmundson
and Leder.
MINUTES
Minutes from the November 12 meeting were approved.
Chairman Tom Lindblom announced that Al Trotsky and Tom Mizel have resigned from
the Plan Commission. Mayor Art Prochaska stated that until the City Council votes to
reduce the number of commissioners, seven people are still necessary to make a quorum.
PRESENTATION
Grand Reserve Preliminary Plan
Art Zwemke, president and CEO of Moser Enterprises Inc., updated commissioners on
the progress of the Grande Reserve development project. He said the developers recently
met with those living in neighborhoods surrounding the planned development to give
them an overview on the progress.
He said construction crews have been able to move about 50 percent of the dirt in the
Phase 1. Phase 1 covers 542 acres.
Zwemke added that there also is progress on the new well and water tower. The target
date for operation of the new water tower is Oct. 1, 2004.
At the meeting with surrounding property owners, Zwemke said some residents living in
the area of Kennedy Road and Bristol Ridge Road raised concerns about a sulfur smell in
the water. Tim Winter, project manager with Pasquinelli Development Group, Inc., stated
they looked in to the matter and couldn't come up with a good solution.
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Commissioner Jack Jones said he lives close to that area and if a sulfur smell in the water
was a concern, it was a short-term one.
Commissioner Brian Schillinger then asked if the existing homeowners on Kennedy
Road would be offered city water. Mayor Prochaska said they would only be offered city
water if they annexed to the city.
Returning to the progress of the Grande Reserve development, Zwemke said the phasing
of the development will move from south to north and construction of three different
neighborhoods will be at approximately the same time. Because it's more efficient, he
said the developers plan to work on more than one neighborhood at a time.
Zwemke added there are no material changes to the preliminary plan since the last time
the commission saw the plan. John Whitehouse, from Engineering Enterprises, Inc.,
stated that the commission will see separate preliminary plans for those first three
neighborhoods— 16, 17 and 18.
Jones asked if any decisions have been made as to where schools would be located.
Zwemke said some partial decisions have been made. However, he said the area is still
undecided. He said there were potential plans for a regional campus in neighborhoods 4
and 5. He said the developers tried to buy the Hinsdale Nursery property and were unable
to do so.
He said the annexation agreement is written so that the school district can extend its
option. He said the developers won't build at either possible school site until the option is
seen.
Schillinger said it makes sense to put a second high school north of Route 71. Zwemke
said no one has mentioned the word high school and are calling the potential school area
a school campus. He said the school district and the developers have left the door open
for good planning and decision making.
Meanwhile, Zwemke said residents neighboring the development have raised concerns
about the replacement of Bristol Ridge Road and planned improvements to Route 34. He
said they were concerned about how the improvements would affect the centerlines. He
said the right of way goes deeper into MPI property and that they won't encroach on any
existing property owner's land.
Zwemke also said residents expressed concern about potential traffic stacking up on
Oakland. However, he said there will be turn lanes added to alleviate any potential
problems.
Commissioner Anne Lucietto asked if the Illinois Department of Transportation has
approved any of the possible cuts to Route 34. Winter said they have received
preliminary approval from IDOT for the cuts.
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It was also reported that the safety was a concern about the street that connects to Anna
Marie Lane. Plans now call for the road to dead end.
Commissioner Andrew Kubala said there a very sharp curve on the road and that
dumping a 30-foot street onto an 18-foot street could be a problem. He said the
developers picked the worst stub to connect. He said there are other roads that would be
better connectors.
However, Zwemke said they want to keep the neighborhoods in the development small
and they want to discourage any through traffic. Lewis, he said, would go into the
subdivision.
Whitehouse commented that right now Anna Marie is the most substandard of any other
nearby roads. He said no one wants Lewis through Lynwood to be a major outlet to
Orchard Road. The connection as planned would be use more by people of the Lynwood
subdivision than those living in Grand Reserve, he said. He added that if Lewis is opened
up, the city could close access to Anna Marie.
Returning to plans for the development, Zwemke said the development will be processed
in three large phases, the middle first, the bottom last and the top first. The entire
development ultimately will be connected to the Yorkville water system, he said.
Lucietto asked if the developers have determined what the lots will sell for. Zwemke said
they don't intend to sell lots to the public. They will sell the lots to builders, who will
then develop the lots and sell them to prospective homeowners. He added that the
baseline price for homes on the 10,000 square foot lots planned in neighborhoods 9, 10
and 11 will be about $265,000 to $270,000. Homes in neighborhoods 12 and 16 on
11,000 square foot lots will near the $300,000 range. Homes on 12,000 square foot lots
will range from$350,000 to $400,000. Also, he added the buyers will have 8 to 12
percent in options available.
Lindblom asked when to expect to see rooftops. Zwemke said finished homes should start
appearing in October 2004. He added there are 1,245 home sites planned in the first area.
Their best guess regarding build out is an estimation of 250 to 300 permits per year.
Zwemke said the developers have committed to some major upfront costs including a$10
million commitment to road improvements. He said they intend to prioritize the
improvements according to need and establish a$2,000 per home site fee for the road
improvements.
Commissioner Michael Crouch commented that the MPI has been more willing to pay for
some of the necessary infrastructure improvements than other developers that have come
to the city.
Zwemke responded that they can't sell anything if the proper infrastructures aren't in
place and prospective buyers won't be happy.
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Kubala asked if the areas on the preliminary plan marked in green are temporary
detention areas. Winter replied that the blue areas are lakes permanent wet detention
areas. The reset will only have water in them after it rains.
Zwemke said they have the ability to mass grade and get the necessary retention and
detention areas installed first. He said there are real efficiencies in the design.
Lindblom thanked Zwemke and the other representatives from the developers present for
coming and updating the commission on the progress of the development.
Kubala asked why the Lynnwood subdivision wasn't shown more completely on the
maps provided. He said it was a little misleading and added that it should be corrected for
the next phase.
In response to a question from Jones, Whitehouse said the reconstruction of Bristol Ridge
Road is the first order. He said they are widening the road to the east. He said the
roadway will be three lanes with a center landscaped median. The railroad crossing also
will be widened and improved, he said. The grade will be improved somewhat on
Kennedy, but not so much on Bristol Ridge.
Whitehouse added that the city standard for streetlights is every 300 feet. He said there
will be fewer lights than what the city requires installed along the roadway to preserve
the rural nature of the area.
Regarding green areas in the plan, Zwemke said MPI had 90 acres set aside as a
conservation area. Those 90 acres are not part of the annexation agreement. He said the
land was donated to CorLands Land Trust.
Mayor Prochaska said the donation will allow the city to seek grants for improvements or
to acquire more land for conservation.
City Planner Mike Schoppe advised commissioners that when the preliminary and final
plans come to the commission to look at the annexation agreement for design standards
and not at the city's zoning standards.
Zwemke said the annexation agreement is a strong document where they tried to build
everything on paper.
In response to a question about the depth of the ponds, it was noted that the depth of the
ponds will normally be 6 feet. The potential maximum depth would be I I feet. However,
safety shelves will be installed in the ponds.
Mayor Prochaska noted that the developers have contributed some upfront money that
helped the city expand city hall and will help other areas of the city as well.
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The meeting adjourned at 8:10 p.m.
Minutes respectfully submitted by Dina Gipe