Plan Commission Minutes 2001 06-13-01 YORKVILLE PLAN COMMISSION
UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE
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Chairman Lindblom called the meeting to order at 7:00 PM
Roll Call:
Members Present: Tom Lindblom Anne Lucietto Ted King
Bob Wenman Kerry Green Jack Jones
Jeff Baker Brian Schillinger Janet Reaves
Clarence Holdiman Andrew Kubala
A quorum was established.
Minutes:
Mr. Green motioned and Mr. Wenman seconded to acct the minutes of the April 9, 2001 Plan
Commission as corrected On a voice vote all members present voting yes except Ms. Lucietto
who abstained. Motion carried.
Public Hearinz:
There were no public hearings.
Chairman Lindblom welcomed Ted King as a new member to the Plan Commission and asked him
to tell everyone a little about himself.
Mr. King stated that he moved to Yorkville in 1996 and lives in the Country Hills subdivision. He
is married and is a professional Accountant.
Old Business:
PC 2001-10 Woodworth Estates - Phase 3 Final Plat
Attorney Tom Grant on behalf of the petitioner stated that this development was started in about
1975 to 1978 and each Plan Commission member has a copy of the latest version of the Final Plat
as well as Engineer Wywrot's review memo. The history of this phase is that there are some
electrical and engineering work that needs to be done. The petitioner is seeking approval subject
to the Engineering review memo. Regarding lot 6 which may be out of the City, Attorney Grant
spoke to the Assessor, but they need to speak to the Mapping Department.
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Attorney Kramer stated that if it is shown to not be annexed into the City, they will have to go
through the process to annex.
Engineer Wywrot stated that Mr. Woodworth has changed some lots, but it does not comply with
the Preliminary Plan. Basically it meets the City's requirements, but Plan Commission needs to
vote to recommend approval accepting the history.
Mr. Wenman motioned and Ms Lucietto seconded to approve and accept the History for
Woodworth Estates Phase 3 On a roll call vote all members present voting aye. Motion carried.
Attorney Grant stated that what has transpired is basically what has been agreed to and they
would need to accept Mr. Woodworth's summary of this. They have no desire to extend
Wooddale Dr. to the west. Gawne Lane could possibly be gated for use with regard to Fire
equipment only, as Gawne Lane residents don't want it extended.
Chairman Lindblom stated there really needs to be two ways in and out, and this is our only
opportunity to straighten out a messy situation.
Engineer Wywrot stated he didn't want to create a situation where the City will be limited to what
we can do in this area in the future. The owner of lot 5 has eliminated any possibility to put a
road through by building in the middle of the only place a road can go.
Ms. Reaves asked how far back this history goes.
Attorney Kramer stated back to the 1970's.
Mr. Woodworth stated he wasn't pushing to finish this and didn't want to have to do a bond, so he
is just finishing it now.
Attorney Grant stated that Gawne Lane is really just a long driveway.
Mr. Woodworth stated that Engineer Wywrot found some areas that show a 50 foot easement,
but the plat doesn't show anything.
Attorney Grant stated emergency vehicles could get in if need be.
Engineer Wywrot stated that the actual pavement does not extend to the end of the right-of-way
as shown, but emergency vehicles could make a turn-around in there if they needed to. However,
the City does want the pavement extended to the end of the ROW.
Attorney Grant stated they would dedicate the ROW.
Ms Lucietto motioned and Mr. Wenman seconded to approve PC 2001-10 Woodworth Estates
Phase 3 Final Plat On a roll call vote all members present voting aye. Motion carried.
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PC 200111 Fields of Farm Colony - Unit 3 - Final Plat
Mr. Chuck Hanlon presented the Final Plat on behalf of Inland.
Engineer Wywrot stated that this is a 1 1/2 mile review and in this case they die has been cast, and
there is no sense in beating a dead horse. The developer has a list showing how this does not
conform, but that will not change what is done in the County. However, the Plat should be
re-submitted showing corrections to road names. The history on this development shows the City
did have an impact on the first unit regarding street lighting and a trail system in lieu of sidewalks.
Ms. Reaves stated that as the representative from the School District she was stating for the
record that all these developments were having a drastic effect on the schools. There will be two
referendums in the Spring. One will be for an additional $.53 for an educational fund, and the
second will be for additions and buildings. The voters will decide on the quality of education.
Mr. Jones stated that Inland has not been co-operative, and he personally is not inclined to go
along with them. The City will become saddled with these developments that don't meet our
standards.
Attorney Kramer stated that the standard for approving or not approving a Final Plat is not based
on whether we want growth or residential, but if it conforms to the approved Preliminary Plat.
Mr. Jones stated we don't have to rubber stamp it.
Attorney Kramer stated the only question here is "Does it conform to the approved Preliminary
Plat",
Mr. Wenman stated that when this comes up for annexation, we don't have to annex it.
Attorney Krmaer stated that is correct, we do not have to annex. With the lot sizes and this
density, no one could afford to build to City standards outside the City.
Mr. Wenman motioned and Ms Lucietto seconded to approve PC 2000-11 Fields of Farm
Colony -Unit 3 Final Plat On a roll call vote 4 members voting yes and 7 members voted no.
Motion failed.
Chairman Lindblom stated he had had a discussion with Mayor Prochaska regarding what is
happening in the City, and asked that Lynn Dubicek give the members an update on
developmental progress.
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Ids. Dubijec stated that Tucker is moving along quickly, the Hairloft is vacant, Tucker will build
an Witional 15,000 square foot building for retail. Walgreens and Menard are moving along.
Wa 'eens is out for bid.
Chairman Lindblom asked for a motion to adjourn.
Mr. Kubala motioned and Ms. Lucietto seconded to adjourn. On a roll call vote all members
present voting yes. Motion carried .
Meeting Adjourned at 7:55 PM
Minutes By Sandy Marker
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PC 2001-10 WOODWORTH ESTATES
PLAT REVISIONS - Rep.By: Tom Grant
Plan Council: 6/7/2001
P. Comm: 6/13/2001 EDC: 6/19/2001
COW: 6/21/2001 CC: 6/28/2001
Joe Wywrot asked me to write down everything that has been agreed on so you will know where
I am coming from. All improvements are completed—sewer, storm sewer, water, curbs and
blacktop. I am submitting these blueprints so I can get the plot approved and recorded. I am
recalling the events with out using dates.
The first plans had a cul-de-sac that ran the length of the property parallel to East Main Street. I
was working with Fran Klaas then. The plans had made their way through to the city council at
that point. Mr. Fey, an alderman at that time, would not allow a long cul-de-sac. At that point a
street was designed between East Main and the cul-de-sac (Ridgeway Drive), thereby making the
cul-de-sac shorter. It was agreed on.
When Ridgeway Drive was being constructed and the first sewer manhole south of East Main
was being installed, the top of the manhole was about 10 feet in the ground and the deepest part
of the cut of the road would be over 15 feet. The lift station was to be on the cul-de-sac at the
south end of Ridgeway Drive.
At that time Don Peck was the city engineer. I told him that it was not feasible to put a road in
with that deep of a cut with the retaining walls it would take. I suggested we move the lift
station to the south end of Bruell Street. Either Don or the engineering firm the city was using
said that they did not want a lift station going into another lift station. They wanted me to put in a
new lift station at the south end of Bruell Street. I said I paid for the first lift station and I could
not afford to pay for a second one for the few lots that could be sold. I then decided not to
develop the cul-de-sac and I took out Ridgeway Drive.
I had already paid for the engineering on Bruell Street and at that time I said I could run a 2"
force main to take care of the 3 lots at the south end of Bruell Street. Don Peck, JT and later Jim
agreed with this. (White Oaks was allowed to use force mains on several lots)
I would like to get Bruell Street recorded and annexed into the city while Jim Nanninga and J.T.
Johnson are available and familiar with the project.
MEMO
To: Jim Nanninga, City Administr
From: Joe WywTot, City Engineer
Subject: Woodworth Subdivision —Phase 3
Date: June 5, 2001
I have reviewed the proposed plat for the referenced development, and have the following
comments:
• The preliminary plan does not agree with the proposed final plat. Apparently several
agreements were made years ago that resulted in those changes. None of those agreements
were in writing, but Dale Woodworth has documented them in the attached memo. The City
Council will probably need to accept these past agreements similar to what was done with
Barry Niles for Foxfield Unit 2.
• The existing pavement on Wooddale Lane does not extend across the full length of Lots 4
and 6 as required by ordinance. City Council should decide if they want the roadway
extended.
• The metes and bounds description should use bearings instead of internal angles. Our
ordinance allows for the use of internal angles, but if we had bearings we could check against
adjacent subdivisions and incorporate it into our city base map more easily.
• The area of each lot should be listed.
• The existing Gawne Lane alley should be shown on the plat to confirm that it will connect
properly with the Wooddale Drive.
• Wooddale Drive should be dedicated across the full frontage of Lots 4 and 6.
• Wooddale Drive should be named Gawne Lane.
• The front yard setback and utility easement on Lot 5 should be parallel to the right-of-way.
• The plat needs to show a line offset 20 feet from the 100-year flood elevation of the Fox
River. The area south of this line should be designated as a drainage easement. The plat
should also show the dimensions and/or bearings of this line, as well as the source of
information for establishing the line.
• We need to see the record drawings to determine the locations and dimensions of utility
easements. We should request wider easements (perhaps 20 feet) along the side lot lines of
Lots 4 and 5 for a potential future storm sewer to the Fox River.
• A typical lot detail should be added, showing a 10' frontyard, 5' sideyard, and 10' rearyard
easements unless noted otherwise on the plat. This detail should also show the building
setback lines.
• A School District Certificate needs to be added.
• Before the plat can be recorded, a letter of credit must be established to guarantee
construction of the remaining public improvements. An engineer's estimate of cost needs to be
submitted for review.
This plat is scheduled for review at Plan Council on June 7, 2001.
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