Plan Commission Minutes 2001 09-12-01 UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE
PLAN COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
September 12, 2001
Chairman Lindblom called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M.
Roll Call:
Members Present: Anne Lucietto Kerry Green
Jeff Baker Harold Feltz
Clarence Holdiman Sandra Adams
Jack Jones Ted King
Brian Schillinger Tom Mizel
Tom Lindblom
A quorum was established.
Approve Minutes:
Commissioner King motioned and Commissioner Green seconded to accept the minutes of the
Plan Commission meeting of the August 8, 2001 Plan Commission. On a voice vote all
members present voting yes. Motion carried.
OLD BUSINESS:
PC 2001-03 Bristol Club & Bristol Center - Preliminary Plan
Mr. Gabel, Vice President for Lay Com,the developers of this 154 acre called Bristol Club &
Bristol Center. The City of Yorkville has prepared the Annexation Agreement, and the
Preliminary Plan is in compliance with the Plan previously presented. They have City Engineer,
Joe Wywrot's most recent review memo, and they don't disagree with this, but they have not
received the letter from the Army Corp. of Engineers regarding their release of these wetlands
from their jurisdiction.
Attorney Kramer stated that we believe this is not jurisdictional, and Mr. Gabel is working to get
the required letter from them.
Mr. Gabel stated they will get all these things done, including the boundary landscaping. They
are working to get form Concept to the Final Stage.
Chief Martin asked about the Sewer& Water issue.
Mr. Gabel stated they will have City water, and probably industrial septic systems. They will
have other caveats should the City of Yorkville not get the water to them in time,they will have
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approve for community wells. They are working on a plan for this with Jim Nanninga's
assistance.
Commissioner Schillinger asked about the trails widths.
Administrator Graff stated the Subdivision Ordinance states 10 feet in width,but they are
reviewing the Park Board Standard. Some areas may even be 12 feet if near a school, etc.
Private areas may be 8 feet wide.
Mr. Schoppe stated that for this development 8 feet is wide enough.
Commissioner Jones asked if they have considered changing the name as there may be a negative
attached to it at this time.
Mr. Gabel stated they have considered this, but for now it will remain as it is.
Attorney Kramer pointed out that if they change the name after Plat approval it will require
notice to the City.
Administrator Graff stated there is a storm water issue that must be resolved before approval.
Mr. Gabel stated he was OK with this.
Mr. Schoppe stated the comment about access should be noted on the plat as a future reminder.
Additionally there is the issue of an east/west collector road to carry local traffic that should go
through this development or through the Inland piece.
Administrator Graff asked how this would work, going through a private development.
Mr. Schoppe stated he felt it was important for local traffic to have this road rather than go up to
Galena. Roads at the one mile square is common practice.
Commissioner Schillinger asked about going to the south of this parcel for the road to the west
for access to route#47.
Mr. Schoppe stated that then they would have homes backed up to this road.
Commissioner Jones stated he felt a 3rd road here seemed redundant.
Commissioner Schillinger stated it changes the attitude of this development.
Mr. Gabel stated this has been talked about and he thought they had gotten past this issue, and
that perhaps it would be done on the Inland parcel.
Attorney Kramer stated he would get a copy of the agreement and get it to staff for distribution.
This was done as a concept plan by Oliver/Niles.
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Mr. Gabel stated that Inland& Matt Fiascone was not married to the plan.
Chief Martin stated that the Preliminary Plan that include this road was never approved.
Commissioner Green asked how they could vote on something not decided.
Chairman, Tom Lindblom stated that if the Commission members feel strongly about a through
road, you state it, if not you pass it as is.
Attorney Kramer stated the question has been raised,but Mr. Gabel wants a private development
with private streets without the collector road.
Mr. Schoppe stated there is a Park issue also. 3.9 acres in this area are recommended at the west
property line to be combined with Inland for park.
Administrator Graff stated he had talked to Mr. Gabel regarding the Park Board being agreeable.
He will start discussion at a staff level. Also he will work on getting a letter from Ruttiger&
Tenelli regarding the update of the Comprehensive Plan.
Administrator Graff stated there is the issue of the field tile being maintained. He wanted to
know if they will maintain the integrity of the field tile through construction.
Mr. Gabel stated they would re-locate them to the property line.
Commissioner Baker motioned to approve PC 2001-03 Bristol Club Preliminary Plan subject to
City Engineer. Joe Wywrot's review and City of Yorkville's Acknowledgment of the East/West
road along the Southern boundary or easement.
Commissioner Schillinger stated he thought this was a private development.
Chairman Lindblom stated if the Plan Commission is not strong on a road going though here,
they should state it.
Attorney Kramer stated it needs to be done as a motion for the Preliminary Plan, and a motion
for the roadway.
Chairman Lindblom stated that Commissioner Baker's motion dies for lack of a second.
Commissioner Schillinger moved to approve the Preliminary Plan subject to City Engineer. Joe
Wywrot's & Mr. Schoppe's reviews Commissioner Baker seconds
Chairman Lindblom asked for comments.
Mr. Schoppe stated the next step is to review the agreement with Inland.
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Administrator Chaff stated that the City Council had not address the importance of the collector
road and it is not included in the PUD agreements. It does address setbacks, lot square footage
and even the building permit process. It was very detailed so staff could interpret , and to
preserve the privatization for the purpose of not accepting roads, as they will remain private
forever. Before the City will accept taking over the roads they will have to be brought up to
City Standards.
Commissioner Jones moved and Commissioner Mizel seconded to amend the motion to exclude
Mr. Schonne's East/West roadway mention from his review memo. On a roll call vote there were
nine 9 yes votes Commissioners Kerry Green, Clarence Holdiman. Jeff Baker, Brian
Schillinger, Jack Jones Ted King Harold Feltz& Tom Lindblom) and(2) no votes
(Commissioners Anne Lucietto & Sandra Adams). Motion carried.
On a roll call vote on the amended motion there were eight(8)yes votes (Kerry Green. Clarence
Holdiman Jeff Baker. Brian Schillinger, Jack Jones, Ted King & Tom Lindblom) and (2) no
votes (Anne Lucietto & Sandra Adams). Harold Feltz Abstained. Motion carried.
Commissioner Schillinger motioned and Commissioner Lucietto seconded to ask the City
Council to investigate the possibility of an East/West Collector Road between Cannonball and
Route #47 On a roll call vote there were nine (10) yes votes . Commissioners Kerry Green,
Clarence Holdiman, Jeff Baker, Brian Schillinger. Jack Jones Ted King. Harold Feltz. Anne
Lucietto & Tom Lindblom) and one (1) no votes Commissioner Sandra Adams). Motion
carried.
ADDITIONAL BUSINESS
Chairman Lindblom announced the Joint Meeting of the City Council and Plan Commission'
Workshop to review Land Use to be held Tuesday, September 26, 2001
Commissioner Lucietto motioned and Commissioner Feltz seconded to adjourn. On a voice
vote all members voting yes. Motion carried.
Adjournment at 7:50 PM
Minutes by Sandy Marker
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