City Council Minutes 2010 05-11-10 MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE UNITED CITY OF YORKVILLE. ]KENDALL COUNTY. ILLINOIS.
HELD IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS,
800 GAME FARM ROAD ON
TUESDAY, MAY 11, 2010
Mayor Burd called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. and led the Council in the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
Clerk Milschewski called the roll.
Ward I Gilson Present
Werderich Present
Ward I I Golinski Present (via telephone — until 8:25)
Plocher Present
Ward III Munns Present
Sutcliff Present
Ward IV Teeling Present
Spears Present
Also present: City Clerk Milschewski, City Treasurer Powell, Attorney Gardiner, City
Administrator/Interim Director of Park and Recreation Olson, Police Chief Hart, Police Lieutenants
Schwartzkopf and Delaney, City Engineer Wywrot, Public Relations Officer Spies, Community
Development Director Barksdale -Noble and Building Inspector Zabel.
OUORUM
A quorum was established.
INTRODUCTION OF GUESTS
Mayor Burd asked the staff and guests to introduce themselves. She welcomed the guests and asked them
to enter their names on the attendance sheet provided.
AMENDMENTS TO THE AGENDA
Mayor Burd asked that an Executive Session be added for the purpose of discussing pending litigation
and that Item #4 under the Mayor's Report — Resolution In Opposition to Proposed Changes in the
KenCom Intergovernmental Agreement (CC 2010 -41) be combined with Alderman Munns report under
the Public Safety Committee Report.
COMMITTEE MEETING DATES
Public Works Committee Meeting: 6:00 p.m., May 18, 2010
City Hall Conference Room
Economic Development Committee: 6:30 p.m., June 1, 2010
City Hall Conference Room
Administration Committee Meeting: 6:00 p.m., May 20, 2010
City Hall Conference Room
Public Safety Committee Meeting: 6:00 p.m., May 27, 2010
City Hall Conference Room
PRESENTATIONS
None.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Crestview Builders, Inc.
Crestview Builders, Inc., petitioner, has filed an application with the United City of Yorkville, Kendall
County, Illinois, requesting an amendment to the Annexation Agreement and Planned Unit Development
dated July 12, 2005, and the Amendment to the Annexation Agreement and Planned Unit Development
dated December 18, 2007. The real property consists of approximately 60 acres located south of Veterans
Parkway and along Cannonball Trail, Yorkville, Illinois.
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Please see attached Report of Proceedings by Christine Vitosh, C.S.R from Depo Court Reporting
Service for the transcription of this portion of the meeting.
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CITIZEN COMMENTS
None.
CONSENT AGENDA
None.
PLAN COMMISSION /ZONING BOARD OF APPEAL
No report.
MINUTES FOR APPROVAL
A motion was made by Alderman Sutchff to approve the minutes of the City Council meeting of March
23, 2010 and the Special City Council of April 10, 2010; seconded by Alderman Spears.
Motion approved unanimously by a viva voce vote.
BILLS FOR APPROVAL
A motion was made by Alderman Sutcliff to approve the paying of the bills listed on the Detailed Board
Report dated May 3, 2010, totaling the following amounts: checks in the amount of $104,316.43
(vendors FY 09/10); $438,294.10 (vendors FY 10 /11); $242,495.77 (payroll period ending 4/24/10); for a
total of $785,106.30; seconded by Alderman Werderich.
Alderman Gilson stated that he submitted questions on the bill list but had not received any answers.
Administrator Olson stated that Director Mika was at a seminar and that he had received her memo with
the answers but did not get to review it. He went over Director Mika's May 10, 2010 memo (see
attached).
Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -5 Nays -2
Plocher -aye, Spears -nay, Munns -aye, Sutcliff -aye, Gilson -nay, Teeling -aye, Werderich -aye
REPORTS
MAYOR'S REPORT
Proclamation for Poppy Days
(CC 2010 -38)
Mayor Burd read a proclamation for Poppy Awareness Days of May 27, 28, 29, 2010 (see attached).
Appointments to Boards and Commissions
(CC 2010 -39)
Fire & Police Commission
Mayor Burd entertained a motion to approve the re- appointment of Margie Putzler to the Fire & Police
Commission. So moved by Alderman Werderich; seconded by Alderman Sutcliff.
Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -7 Nays -0
Sutcliff- -aye, Munns -aye, Spears -aye, Plocher -aye, Werderich -aye, Teeling -aye, Gilson -aye
Human Resource Commission
Mayor Burd entertained a motion to approve the re- appointment of Amy Baudouin to the Human
Resource Commission. So moved by Alderman Sutcliff, seconded by Alderman Spears.
Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -7 Nays -0
Sutcliff -aye, Munns -aye, Spears -aye, Plocher -aye, Werderich -aye, Teeling -aye, Gilson -aye
Library Board
Mayor Burd entertained a motion to approve the re- appointment of Gail Gaebler to the Library Board. So
moved by Alderman Werderich; seconded by Alderman Sutcliff.
Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -7 Nays -0
Munns -aye, Spears -aye, Plocher -aye, Werderich -aye, Teeling -aye, Gilson -aye, Sutcliff -aye
Plan Commission
Mayor Burd entertained a motion to approve the re- appointment of Jeff Baker to the Plan Commission.
So moved by Alderman Sutcliff, seconded by Alderman Werderich.
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Motion approved by a roll call vote_ Ayes -7 Nays -0
Spears -aye, Plocher -aye, Werderich -aye, Teeling -aye, Gilson -aye, Sutcliff- -aye, Munns -aye
Police Pension Board
Mayor Burd entertained a motion to approve the re- appointment of Todd Overmyer to the Police Pension
Board. So moved by Alderman Sutcliff, seconded by Alderman Spears.
Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -7 Nays -0
Plocher -aye, Werderich -aye, Teeling -aye, Gilson -aye, Sutcliff-aye, Munns -aye, Spears -aye
Library Board
Mayor Burd entertained a motion to approve the appointment of Bob Allen to the Library Board. So
moved by Alderman Sutcliff, seconded by Alderman Teeling.
Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -7 Nays -0
Werderich -aye, Teeling -aye, Gilson -aye, Sutcliff -aye, Munns -aye, Spears -aye, Plocher -aye
Selection of Mayor Pro Tem for F/Y 10 /11
(CC 2010 -40)
A motion was made by Mayor Burd to appoint Alderman Plocher as Mayor Pro Tem. So moved by
Alderman Sutcliff, seconded by Alderman Teeling.
Alderman Spears asked if the procedure for appointing the Mayor Pro Tem indicated that seniority was
followed. Mayor Burd stated that it does not specify seniority however the City Council has set a
precedent by following the seniority of the aldermen when appointing the Mayor Pro Tem.
Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -6 Nays -0 Present -1
Teeling -aye, Gilson -aye, Sutcliff-aye, Munns -aye, Spears -aye, Plocher- present, Werderich -aye
Resolution 2010 -12 In Opposition to Proposed Changes in the
KenCom Intergovernmental Agreement
(CC 2010 -41)
Mayor Burd entertained a motion to approve a resolution in opposition to the proposed changes in the
KenCom Intergovernmental Agreement and authorize the Mayor and City Clerk to execute. So moved by
Alderman Munns; seconded by Alderman Sutcliff.
Mayor Burd explained that City Attorney Orr reviewed the current agreement and there is no mechanism
in it for Kendall County to terminate it however there is for cities to do so after giving notice. Attorney
Orr has drafted the resolution to encourage the Kendall County Board and KenCom to continue with the
current intergovernmental agreement and to use the public safety tax to fund KenCom. She stated that
Yorkville, Oswego and Plano represent over 60% of Kendall County and all the communities want to sit
down with the Kendall County Board and negotiate.
Chief Hart explained that the Kendall County Board wants the new agreement signed by June 24, 2010.
The new agreement proposes to use public safety tax to fund the Kendall County portion of KenCom with
all other participants' splitting the difference. The Police Department feels that the new agreement would
be double taxing citizens and supports the proposed resolution stating that Yorkville wants the current
agreement to remain on place.
Alderman Munns reported that the public safety tax pays for 911 services. The county board wants to cap
the tax however the affected municipalities are asking the board to live up to the original agreement. If
the city does not sign the new intergovernmental agreement then it will be out of KenCom. He added that
the city does not want this; they want to negotiate with the county. Mayor Burd added that there is a 911
surcharge on every telephone line in Kendall County as well as every cell phone line. There are
limitations on how these funds are spent.
Mayor Burd added that the current agreement has Kendall County funding $2 million of the $4 million
used to expand the Kendall County Courthouse. They are also using $2 million to abate real estate taxes.
The Kendall County sheriff has increased his budget while municipalities have had to decrease theirs.
There was a brief discussion on the 911 surcharge, the county using money from their general fund to
support KenCom and the uncertainty as to where the funds are going.
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Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -6 Nays -0 Present -1
Munns -aye, Spears- present, Plocher -aye, Werderich -aye, Teeling -aye, Gilson -aye, Sutcliff- -aye
CITY COUNCIL REPORT
No report.
ATTORNEY'S REPORT
No report.
CITY CLERK'S REPORT
No report.
CITY TREASURER'S REPORT
Annual Police Pension Report for Fiscal Year Ending April 30. 2010
(CC 2010 -42)
Fiscal Year 2010 -2011 Police Pension Budget
(CC 2010 -43)
Treasurer Powell reported that the City Council had received copies of the annual report and budget (see
attached). The fiscal year end balance for the Police Pension is $3,645,473.42. Total contributions were
$525,000.00 with retirement payments of $275,000.00.
Signature Cards
Treasurer Powell reported that he had new signatures cards for the aldermen to sign for the account at
Castle Bank.
CITY ADMINISTATOR'S REPORT
Administrator Olson reported that if any resident notices weeds that are too tall, they should call the
Building Department. Building Department employees will do an inspection and try to remedy the
situation. If the problem is not addressed by the owner of the property, the city will mow and bill the
owner. He stated that some residents have questioned if they should call the owner's themselves however
the city can write a ticket for a mowing violation. He asked that when residents call in a complaint they
include the address, parcel, lot number or nearest intersection. Mayor Burd noted that the Police
Department has shared this information through the Neighborhood Watch program. Also, having the
Police Department handle complaints takes away animosity between neighbors.
Alderman Munns stated that there were areas in Fox Hill around the Dreyer Medical building that need
mowing. Administrator Olson stated that once the city contacts them they do mow. Alderman Munns
felt that the fines for non - compliance should be higher. Administrator Olson stated that raising the fines
is being discussed at the May 18, 2010 Public Works Committee meeting and that fines were determined
during the adjudication process.
FINANCE DIRECTOR'S REPORT
No report.
CITY ENGINEER'S REPORT
No report.
DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS REPORT
No report.
CHIEF OF POLICE'S REPORT
Chief Hart reported that Officer Calvert retired after 28 years on the force. Officer Calvert requested that
there be no party in his honor however his fellow officers took up a collection for a retirement gift. The
city also presented him with a gift.
Chief Hart also thanked the City Council for their support with KenCom.
DIRECTOR OF PARKS & RECREATION'S REPORT
Interim Director of Park and Recreation Olson reported that Music Under the Stars begins June 11, 2010
and will be held every other Friday throughout the summer. Also, the Farmer's Market starts Saturday,
June 12, 2010 and the city is still accepting applications for it.
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR REPORT
No report.
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COMMUNITY RELATIONS OFFICER'S REPORT
Mrs. Spies reported:
• The City's website will be updated with a "FAQ" section. Mayor Burd added that Mrs. Spies
sends out email blasts with city information. Anyone interested should contact her or go to the
city's website to sign up.
• A community yard sale will be held on June 18 & 19, 2010 at the former Countryside Center
property.
• The American Legion will be hosting a memorial Day event on May 31, 2010 at 11:30 in Town
Square Park
COMMUNITY & LIAISON REPORT
Yorkville Bristol Sanitary District
Alderman Gilson reported that he attended the Yorkville Bristol Sanitary District meeting on May 10,
2010. Items discussed were IMRF, FOIA compliance, hiring anew office manager and the south side
sanitary sewer repairs. Alderman Gilson was concerned that Alderman Plocher approached Ralph Pfister
of the YBSD to discuss developing a long range plan for the south side repairs without first bringing the
matter to the Public Works Committee or the YBSD liaison.
Northeastern Illinois Area Agency on Aging
Alderman Spears reported that she attended the NEIL Board meeting. Things discussed were:
• They have only received 20% of Illinois general revenue funds and have submitted a hardship
letter to the state for the $1.2 million that it is owed.
• Revised grants reducing the anticipated revenue funds by 50% have been issued. Two
subsequent area plan revisions are being prepared; for when the carry-over figures from FY 2009
are available and for when the actual general fund revenue amount is determined for FY 2010.
• The Veterans Independence Project (VIP) is moving along. Training for counselors and case
managers is scheduled for May 19, 2010. NEIL is in the final stages of approving the
cooperative agreement between area agencies on aging and VA hospitals.
• The Chronic Disease Self- Management Program is new to the area. It uses trained people to
teach individuals with chronic health conditions about their condition and how to manage it.
• FY 2011 funding projections has been prepared. If NEIL is fully funded there may still be a
decrease of federal funds. There will be no American Recovery and Reinvestment Act funding
in 2011 resulting in a loss of $353,424.00. State funding even at its full level will be
$133,157.00 less than in 2010. Total agency income is conservatively projected to be
$305,694.00 less than in FY 2010. The distribution of funding among counties for FY 2011 has
been adjusted using 2008 population estimates from the Census Bureau.
Kendall County Senior Providers
Alderman Spears reported that the Kendall County Senior Providers will be hosting the 6 Annual
Kendall County Elder Friendly/Livable Communities Seminar on May 21, 2010 from 9:00 a.m. to noon at
the Oswego Senior Center, 156 E. Washington Street.
Metro Mayors Caucus
Mayor Burd reported that she attended the Metropolitan Mayors Caucus where the Illinois is Broke
Coalition presented a PowerPoint presentation on pension reform. The total budget deficit is $14 to $15
billion for 2010 and most of the debt is attributable to the retirement program. There was also a Services
Delivered Task Force meeting at the caucus. This looked at the delivery of services to residents at a
reduced cost. Some cities are willing to combine services in order to save money. Yorkville is looking at
participating in the task force and she stated she would report back on the pilot program to the City
Council in the fall.
Library Board
Mayor Burd reported that she attended the Library Board meeting along with Administrator Olson,
Director Mika and Alderman Gilson. Alderman Gilson reported that the Library Board discussed cash
carryover, city funding assistance, the existing Intergovernmental Agreement from 1997 providing
services from the city, seal coating the parking lot, the Library District fact finding budget issues and
revenue from the tax levy. The Library Board will vote on the city's request for funding assistance at
their next meeting.
Kendall County Food Pantry
Treasurer Powell reported that 25 computers without monitors were donated to the food pantry. They are
now in need of monitors to be donated.
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COMMITTEE REPORTS
PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE REPORT
No report.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE REPORT
Ordinance Approving the First Amendment to the Amended Annexation
Agreement Planned Unit Development Agreement
(Blackberry Woods Subdivision)
(PC 2010 -03)
A motion was made by Alderman Spears to approve an ordinance approving the First Amendment to the
Amended Annexation Agreement and Planned Unit Development Agreement and authorize the Mayor
and City Clerk to execute; seconded by Alderman Munns.
Alderman Spears had the following concerns:
• The current amendment locks in fees for 8 years whereas the original locked them in for 5 years.
• Instead of waiving the transportation fee could Yorkville collected the fees for the offsite road
work, save them and used them later? Administrator Olson explained that the road fees are
collected to offset the impact of new residents on the existing roads and are used toward work on
roads in the area of the subdivision. The city has waived this in the past or used the fees on
perimeter roadway improvements. He confirmed that the fees can be collected and used later.
She stated that she supported the collection of the fees to be used later.
• When will the land cash fee be collected. Administrator Olson explained that the intent is to ask
for immediate delivery of the outstanding land cash obligation at the signing of the amendment.
• The original plan identified a park site but now the plan doesn't indicate one. She asked that this
be included again. Attorney Kramer, representing the developer, explained the plat had been
recorded so the parks cannot be changed.
• She went out to the property and noticed erosion at the pond site. The same company has been
contracted to redo the ponds and it appears they weren't constructed properly. Attorney Kramer
explained that the ponds have not been properly maintained. The same engineer is being used on
the ponds however a different contractor will repair them.
• Will future homes be built at the same standards as those already there. Attorney Kramer stated
that the developer will be meeting with residents to discuss their concerns about this.
• There is debris on several lots. Administrator Olson stated that the owner of the lots is
responsible to clean them up. Alderman Spears asked that this be addressed.
• Is there sewer on Purcell Drive? Attorney Kramer stated that there will be a sanitary sewer and
large watermain. He also stated that a Letter of Credit (LOC) will be posted to address the sewer
and maintain it.
• Will residents be allowed to decide if they want a Homeowner's Association (HOA)? Attorney
Kramer explained that the HOA was for the R-4 residences to address the outside maintenance
such as the yards. Alderman Spears asked how the funds paid into the HOA could be found.
Attorney Kramer stated that the bank could probably find out and that he would investigate.
Attorney Gardiner added that it is not a city obligation to investigate; residents will have to do
this.
Alderman Sutcliff stated the economy and the state of the subdivision need to be taken into consideration.
She felt it was a positive thing to have a quality builder come in and complete the subdivision.
Alderman Gilson had the following concerns:
• The LOC is 120% of costs based on an engineering estimate from 2005 and he questioned if this
was a sufficient amount. He asked if the LOC would be held for the other lots and Attorney
Kramer stated that it would. Alderman Gilson felt that waiving the LOCs was not a smart move.
• Fees are being locked in until 2018 and costs will increase.
• Due to the city's current budget it he felt it unwise to waive the Transportation Infrastructure Fee.
He questioned what the transportation fee cover? Administrator Olson reiterated that the fee
covers road projects that the city decides are needed in the area of the subdivision. Attorney
Kramer added that city has to show that the improvements are uniquely attributable to the
subdivision.
• If the HOA is waived would the cost associated with a new HOA fall on the residents? Attorney
Kramer explained that the developer owns the majority of the lots in the subdivision and will
participate in the HOA. Alderman Gilson felt that once this is waived there will be no
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accountability or tracking of the fees. Attorney Kramer clarified that the HOA is only being
waived on the R-4 lots.
• Why lock in the International Building Code until 2020? Codes could be upgraded in this time
period and the builder should comply. Administrator Olson stated that this was a policy decision
by the City Council; the builder feels they cannot develop the subdivision unless the codes are
locked in.
• When will the city get land cash funds and is there a liability for not collecting it? Attorney
Kramer explained that the city would get land cash funds even the unpaid portion. He also stated
that he was not sure funds weren't collected.
Alderman Gilson stated he could not support the amendment due to his concerns.
Alderman Werderich expressed his concern with the lack of notification and information provided to the
residents of the subdivision. He felt it was the duty of the city to get the information regarding the
amendment to the residents so they could review and digest it. He shared the concerns with waiving the
transportation fee, freezing the building code and the reduction of the LOC's. He suggested the
amendment be tabled so residents could have time to review the information.
A motion was made by Alderman Werderich to table the amendment until the next City Council meeting;
seconded by Alderman Spears.
Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -4 Nays -3
Teeling -nay, Gilson -aye, Sutcliff -nay, Munns -nay, Spears -aye, Plocher -aye, Werderich -aye
Attorney Kramer commented that if the transportation fee is not waived or the other fees are not locked
in, the city will lose the deal with this developer.
Amending the Code of Ordinances Amending the Building Department Fee
First Reading
(EDC 2010 -03)
Alderman Spears reported that this was the first reading of the ordinance which proposes an increase of
Building Department fees as discussed by the Economic Development Committee.
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE REPORT
No report.
ADMINISTRATION COMMITTEE REPORT
No report.
ADDITIONAL BUSINESS
Pasquinelli Signs
Alderman Teeling reported that residents of Grande Reserve have requested that the Pasquinelli signs be
removed from the subdivision. Administrator Olson stated that he would look into this.
Blackberry Woods Subdivision
Alderman Spears asked if staff was going to review the comments made tonight and bring back a
different document. Mayor Burd stated that the amended agreement would be brought back as is.
EXECUTIVE SESSION
Mayor Burd entertained a motion to go into Executive Session for purpose of discussing litigation, when
an action against, affecting or on behalf of the particular public body has been filed and is pending before
a court or administrative tribunal, or when the public body finds that an action is probable or imminent, in
which case the basis for the finding shall be recorded and entered into the minutes of the closed meeting.
So moved by Alderman Sutcliff, seconded by Alderman Munns
- Motion approved by a roll call vote. Ayes -7 Nays -0
Spears -aye, Plocher -aye, Werderich -aye, Teeling -aye, Gilson -aye, Sutcliff -aye, Munns -aye
The City Council entered into executive session at 10:18 p.m.
The City Council returned to the regular session at 11:03 p.m.
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ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Burd entertained a motion to adjourn the meeting. So moved by Alderman Werderich; seconded
by Alderman Spears.
Adjournment of the meeting was unanim ously approved by a viva voce vote.
Meeting adjourned at 11:03 p.m.
Minutes submitted by:
Jacquelyn Milschewski,
City Clerk City of Yorkville, Illinois
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1 P R E S E N T:
2 MS. VALERIE BURD, Mayor;
3 MR. ARDEN JOE PLOCHER, Alderman;
4 MR. MARTY MUNNS, Alderman;
5 MS. ROSE ANN SPEARS, Alderwoman;
6 MS. ROBYN SUTCLIFF, Alderwoman;
7 MR. WALLY WERDERICH, Alderman;
8 MR. GEORGE GILSON, JR., Alderman;
9 MS. DIANE TEELING, Alderwoman.
10 VIA SPEAKERPHONE:
11 MR. GARY GOLINSKI, Alderman.
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14 MR. BART OLSON, City Administrator;
15 MR. WILLIAM POWELL, City Treasurer;
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16 MS. JACQUELINE MILSCHEWSKI, ,City Clerk.
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1 (Pledge of Allegiance.)
2 MAYOR BURD: The next item on the agenda
3 is the public hearing. We are going enter into to
4 a public hearing on Crestview Builders, `
07:07PM 5 Incorporated, petition -- petitioner, has filed an f
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7 Kendall County, requesting an amendment to the
8 Annexation Agreement and Planned Unit Development
9 dated July 12, 2005 and the amendment to the
07:07PM 10 Annexation Agreement and Planned Unit Development
11 dated December 18th, 2007.
12 The real property consists of
13 approximately 60 acres located south of Veterans
14 Parkway and along Cannonball Trail. J
07:07PM 15 Is there someone here who would like
16 to speak for the petitioner?
17 MR. KRAMER: Good evening, Mayor,
18 Aldermen, and members of the public. My name is
19 Attorney Daniel J. Kramer. I am an attorney
07:08PM 20 licensed to practice law in the state of Illinois
21 and I represent the petitioner, Crestview
22 Builders, Inc.
23 Basically the folks that live in
24 that subdivision and you, as Aldermen and Mayor
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1 and the Staff of course know, the property was
2 originally annexed to the City and developed by
3 McCue Builders.
4 Unfortunately with these bad times,
07:08PM 5 McCue Builders was not able to carry out its
6 obligations and they tendered the property back to
7 Castle Bank, which is the actual owner as we speak
8 here tonight.
9 Crestview Builders has approached
07:08PM 10 Castle Bank and has a written contract to purchase
11 the property with the bank and would like to come
12 in and develop the property.
13 Crestview has developed two
14 subdivisions in the City of Yorkville; they
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07:08PM 15 developed Greenbriar subdivision, and the
16 principals of Crestview were also involved in
17 White Oak subdivision, both of which turned out to
18 be very nice developments and good additions to
19 the City.
07:09PM 20 Primarily with the petition to amend
21 the Planned Unit Development agreement, they
22 wanted to assure to themselves, with the market
23 unfortunately where it is now and none of us
24 having a crystal ball to know precisely when it's
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1 going to recover, that there would be enough time
2 in terms of some of the entitlements on the
3 property to develop it and perhaps develop it in a
4 little bit more orderly fashion.
07:09PM 5 I'm sure if McCue Builders, as we
6 said at the Economic Development Committee about a
7 week ago, could turn back the hand of time, what
8 they would have done is divided it into phases, or
9 units, had the overall preliminary plan approved,
07:09PM 10 but only had maybe a 40 or 50 -lot plan and plat
11 recorded and develop it on an as -need basis.
12 When they go through the process,
13 hindsight always works good, the economy was
14 certainly a lot better, lots were selling, and
07:1OPM 15 they anticipated they'd be able to do it all in
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17 case.
18 The petition for amendment of the
19 PUD asks that the City Council lock in the fee
07:1OPM 20 structure and the entitlements to 2018; that's one
21 of the requests.
22 A second was that in a certain area
23 of the subdivision, primarily up in the north,
24 that were a little bit smaller lots, originally
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1 they had planned -- that is, McCue Builders --
2 that they would have an outside maintenance
3. package and a totally separate or sub homeowner's
4 association that would do all of the mowing of the
07:IOPM 5 lawn and all of the outside maintenance.
6 Crestview has not done that type of
7 project before, they have built traditional homes,
8 duplexes, and so on, so they're asking to amend
9 that agreement that any individual lot owner would
07:11PM 10 maintain their own property.
11 Second -- Or thirdly, they are
12 asking to -- even though it is a final plat as to
13 the whole subdivision, there is a portion of the
14 improvements that -- generally on the west, where
07:11PM 15 there are no homes, that there is a water line in,
16 so it's good for the citizens that live there, you
17 don't have a dead -end water main, it's looped for
18 the west and the east, so that would be maintained
19 by letter of credit, but on the western portion of
07:11PM 20 the property where the roads haven't been started
21 as far as the base coat of asphalt and so on,
22 they're asking that they not post the letter of
23 credit for that work to begin until they are ready
24 to move into that unit of the subdivision.
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1 Conversely, they could not sell any
2 lots in that unit, that's part of the amendment,
3 nor could they even start on those public
4 improvements until they post that letter of
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7 subdivision where the base coat is in and all the
8 other public improvements are in, Crestview
9 Builders would post the full letter of credit
07:12PM 10 under the City ordinances.
11 We also have a very, very detailed
12 landscape plan and detention pond plan. With all
13 this blue up here, it's hard to see where the
14 ponds are, but there is a smaller drawing that you
07:12PM 15 should have on the screen or in your package.
16 The ponds are in in terms of
17 engineering in the sense they function as
18 drainage, but they need to be cleaned up as far as
19 cattails and so on, and some newer, more
07:12PM 20 appropriate type of plantings need to be put in,
21 and it's part of the amendment that Crestview
22 would do that at their expense. They would be
23 responsible for an extended maintenance period on
24 that.
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1 One of the things that the McCue
2 Builders did, they actually recorded with the
3 Secretary of State a not - for - profit homeowner's
4 association, but they never funded it, never got
07:12PM 5 off the ground with it, so that the homeowners out
6 there could activate that association. It's
7 current with the Secretary of State at this point,
8 but there is no assessments being made.
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07:13PM 10 SSA, so that as far as the two common features,
11 the two detention ponds, and there is a small sign
12 up at the front of the development, those would be
13 the only thing that could ever be subject for levy
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14 on the backup SSA.
07:13PM 15 The open space areas, there is two
16 large ones, that when they are complete, they are
17 called for under the original PUD agreement, and
18 that stays the same. They will be deeded to the
19 City once they are completed for park and
07:13PM 20 recreation purposes.
21 So that basically summarizes the
22 amendments to the PUD. We're happy to answer any
23 questions that we can tonight. Crestview has not
24 closed on the property, they obviously want to see
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1 the amendment approved.
2 As I say, Castle is the owner as we
3 stand here tonight, but we think it's an advantage
4 both for the City, for the petitioner, and for the
07:14PM 5 neighbors to have a good, reputable builder who
6 will get this thing moving right away.
7 It's the intention of Crestview, if
8 the property -- or the PUD amendment is approved,
9 they would close in around 30 days with Castle
07:14PM 10 Bank, and it would be their intention to start
11 building homes yet this building season, so that
12 you would see some activity out there and the pond
13 cleanup would get going right away as well. Thank
14 you.
07:14PM 15 MAYOR BURD: Thank you. Okay. Is there
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16 anyone here who would like to address -- Yes, sir.
17 Please come up to the podium.
18 MR. M. JOHNSON: Hi. I'm Mark Johnson,
19 Yorkville. First I'd like to -- just before I
07:15PM 20 start, I'd like to point out a couple things since
21 it's got a nice drawing up here that -- as Dan
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23 here and -here, so this is all just dirt and
24 gravel. Nothing in there.
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1 Another key thing I want you to
2 understand is at the end of this is the Beecher
3 Road extension that I think everybody understands
4 is a main corridor that's going to go through, so
07:15PM 5 I wanted you just to know that in relationship to
6 these lots as I talk little bit.
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8 I'm having anything to say to a requested change
9 to a development my city. I've been very vocal
07:15PM 10 for several years now about demanding my city make
11 substantial cuts in its budget. I did not expect
12 the City to allow those cuts on the revenue side.
13 This developer is requesting to cut
14 City revenues for its own profit. I am here
07:16PM 15 tonight to comment on the alarming information
16 that the residents of Blackberry Woods received in
17 their mail concerning their homes.
18 I took out a section here tonight
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19 that I found out about an illegal mailing that was
07:16PM 20 delivered to mailboxes, but it wasn't due to the
21 developer or to the City, so I am taking that part
22 out, but I just wanted you to be aware that many
23 residents didn't get notification.
24 The lack of support documentation
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1 for this public hearing is horrendous. Upon
2 finding out about this public hearing a week ago,
3 I went to the City Hall, requested and received
4 all they had, a three -page overview document.
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07:17PM 5 Last week the City's website had no
6 City Council packet available. After digging
7 deeply, I was finally able to find some additional
8 info under the Economic Development Committee
9 packet.
07:17PM 10 The average homeowner in Blackberry
11 Woods wouldn't be able to understand any of this
12 until tonight's public hearing. Then they would
13 be required to state their case with no time to
14 - prepare.
07:17PM 15 This Council in its infinite wisdom
16 is taking an up or down vote tonight. This
17 happens far too often in our city. Our City brags
18 about transparency, but this hearing proves
19 otherwise.
07:17PM 20 Citizen's access to all documents
21 concerning public hearings should and must be made
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23 must be transparent.
24 By doing hours of research, I have
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1 since found additional information, important
2 information, about this new developer's request
3 that was not available to me a week ago.
4 Four to five years ago I heard this
07:18PM 5 City Council argue that Yorkville needed more
6 commercial development and less residential.
7 Commercial development brings in money and
8 residential brings in more people and more costs
9 to the City. Those were the words of our City
07:18PM 10 Council.
11 Now here is a developer coming into
12 the City wanting to bring more residential growth
13 while paying less than their fair share to our
14 city.
07:18PM 15 I'll quote the developer and City
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17 from Bart Olson, "The petitioner is on an
18 expedited schedule due to the terms of their
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19 purchase contract, which is why the final language
07:18PM 20 of the contract has not been completed."
21 I must comment on this section
22 first. Expedited? Just because a developer is in
23 a hurry, why should this Council be? So much of a
24 hurry not to have the contract final? Sounds like
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2 the people can see what's in it.
3 Developers have told you many times
4 in the past, Trust me, we just want to be your
07:19PM 5 friends and do what makes economic sense.
6 Economic sense to whom?
7 I also read in the original
8 annexation agreement that there is a five -year
9 freeze on the fees to the City. After July 12th
07 :19PM 10 -of 2010, the developer must pay all new fees and
11 increased fees to the City. Now they are here
12 asking for reduced fees even from that. Could
13 this be another reason they want their request
14 expedited?
07:19PM 15 Another quote, it is my hope that
16 the Economic Development Committee can give Staff
17 and the petitioner some direction on the policy
18 issues in the amendments so that any disagreements
19 between Staff and the petitioner can be settled
07:20PM 20 prior to the City Council public hearing.
21 The Staff and petitioner want
22 direction on policy so it can be settled prior to
23 this hearing? Excuse me? When were you going to
24 let the people who live in Blackberry Woods, who
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1 will be the most directly affected, know about
2 this? After you settled it and reached agreement?
3 This is what the people got. This
4 is the information that I got via the website and
07:20PM 5 whatever basically your packet is. Quite a bit of
6 difference. This is the only thing the homeowners
7 received.
8 Again I quote, The developer is
9 requesting a substantial amount of changes to City
07:20PM 10 code and policies to make the subdivision viable.
11 Again I must say, Excuse me? The original
12 developer is a well -known builder in this
13 community and he was going to make money with the
14 current rules. Don't try and make me believe
07:21PM 15 Crestview Builders can't or won't make a fair
16 profit under those same rules.
17 Quote again, As we have seen in the
18 past few years, residential development has
19 halted. Explain to me why this is a bad thing?
07:21PM 20 Remember, not long ago this Council wanted to slow
21 down or stop the residential growth as compared to
22 the commercial.
23 Comments were made by the City
24 Council-at that time that residential building
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1 costs the City more. Do you remember this
2 Council's words?
3 Quoting the City and developer one
4 more time, the developer has stated that the
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07:21PM 5 existing codes and requirements, et cetera,
6 renders most residential development in this city,
7 and particularly this site, economically
8 unfeasible.
9 Beware of this type of rhetoric
07:22PM 10 coming from developers. We have heard it many
11 times before and it usually ends up costing the
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13 make it unfeasible? This is a red flag to me.
14 Makes you wonder what they have planned up their
07:22PM 15 sleeves for this subdivision.
16 I also have been led to believe this
17 builder is a non -union shop who brings in his work
18 force with him. This may help him be more
19 feasible, but does that create jobs in Yorkville?
07:22PM 20 Secondly, if developers don't like
21 how our city does business, then I recommend the
22 developers can just move on down the road to the
23 next town where there are even better deals and
24 soft city governments willing to sell the souls of
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1 their citizenry for a few coins.
2 I am a local realtor who has lived
3 in my city for 60 years and I know this town's
4 premier development areas. Blackberry Woods is
07:23PM 5 one of those shining star development areas.
6 Blackberry Woods has everything, it has Blackberry
7 Creek, the woods,.and on December 18th of 2007,
8 Mayor Burd signed the first amendment and accepted
9 the proper feasible plan for this development.
07:23PM 10 The housing market was already in
11 the tank when McCue Builders asked for that
12 amendment. That first amendment was to make it
13 economically feasible also.
14 Just because the City caved in on
07:23PM 15 Windett Ridge, as Attorney Kramer stated, by
16 giving the big banks money prorated on components
17 of that development being completed doesn't make
18 it right to cave in on all developers.
19 When is this City Council going to
07:23PM 20 grow a set and stick by its commitments to the
21 existing citizens and taxpayers? It seems like
22 everyone coming into our city with their ideas
23 wants it their way or they threaten to sue our
24 city over the smallest item.
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1 I ask this Council to stand up and
2 quit cowering every time you hear that threat from
3 developers. Bullies need to be punched right
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4 smack in the noses sometimes and then they will
07:24PM 5 leave you alone.
6. We as a city have been lucky enough
7 to catch a breather here with'slower and better
8 development. What we experienced in growth over
9 the last ten years is not normal. What we see
07:24PM 10 today in slower growth isn't normal either.
11 I promise you, responsible growth is
12 on its way back. When our growth does get back to
13 normal, will we have to hire ten more lawyers to
14 defend the City against all the changes we keep
07:24PM 15 making from every developer?
16 Every change you make now is setting
17 precedence for every developer to follow. It
18 never ends. We are in a growth circle around
19 Chicago. We will be developed. It is just a
07:25PM 20 matter of time. But what will we be developed
21 into?
22 Like the movie It's a Wonderful
23 Life, do we want to look like Bedford Falls or do
24 we want to look like Potterville?
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1 I ask this Council to take a stand
2 now before you create more troubles for the
3 councilmen that follow you. Tell these developers
4 that these are our people's and our taxpayer's and
07:25PM 5 our City's terms.
6 We have already agreed to the
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8 townspeople put these rules together to protect
.9 our city, not to mention how unfair it is to the
07:25PM 10 12 or 13 existing homeowners who built under the
11 assumption that the entire subdivision would
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14 Now is not the time to run panicked
07:26PM 15 into the street and give in to developers who want
16 to change the rules just for their own profit.
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17 How poor our memories are to not
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18 remember how you all have been treated by
19 developers when they promised to fulfill their
07:26PM 20 commitments to everyone in Windett Ridge, Grande
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22' Those investors who have the money
23 today are buying developments for a song and want
24 to maximize their profits. I don't blame them,
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1 but they know the rules coming in. Live with
2 them. Don't let the developers try to con you
3 into believing they care about anything except
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4 more profit for them.
07:26PM 5 When developers cease to meet their
6 quotas on profit, they, too, will drop our city
7 like a hot potato and leave us to clean up the
8 mess.
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9 That is why cities established the
07:27PM 10 rules of letters of credit; it helps protect
11 current citizens and current taxpayers of our city
12 from profiteering developers.
13 This developer brags about their
14 wonderful developments. One is just off Route 71
07:27PM 15 on their website. It's named Shadow Creek. It
16 was begun in the building boom of 2003. They
17 built seven homes there, five in 2004 and two in
18 2005. They haven't built one more since 2005.
19 What does that tell you about their
07:27PM 20 ability to build and sell homes in Yorkville and
21 this development? And they tell us they are on an
22 expedited schedule for this development?
23 I also must question this
24 developer's motive for not finishing the western
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2 about here. Could it have anything to do with the
3 fact that the western lots are adjacent to the
4 Beecher Road corridor?
07:28PM 5 Are they going to come back sometime
6 in the future and ask the Council to rezone and
7 make these lots into commercial property?
8 It seems very strange that 15 lots
9 in this development are owned by H. Linden & Son
07:28PM 10 Development. I can point out the ones that they
11 a.re, but they are scattered throughout here.
12 But, amazingly, these four yellow
13 ones right here that just happen to butt up
14 against Beecher Road, and about where the roadway
07:28PM 15 ends, these four lots are H. Linden & Son
16 Development. Could they be thinking down the road
17 that that would be an excellent place to put some
18 commercial and get zoning from a new council?
19 City Council members, now is the
07:29PM 20 time to stand up, reflect on and follow the rules
21 we already have in place. Many dedicated people
22 before you made these good, solid rules for
23 developments in our city.
24 Your job as Councilmen is to protect
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1 the residents, not the developers. Don't throw
2 all the people's hard work away. Stand up and
3 tell these developers that this is our city,
4 respect it and respect our citizens and respect
07:29PM 5 our rules.
6 Many of our fine citizens gave a lot
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8 Let's not dishonor them by saying they didn't know
9 what they were doing.
07:29PM 10 Developers and their lawyers come
11 and go, but the citizens invest their lives and
12 families here in our city. That is the life blood
13 of our community.
14 Beginning tonight, I ask this
07:30PM 15 Council to begin protecting your taxpaying
16 citizens and not the developers. Tell this
17 developer the existing rules stand as -is. Tell
18 this developer no. Thank you very much.
19 MAYOR BURD: Would anybody else like to
07:30PM 20 speak? Yes, ma'am.
21 M-S. DIDIER: My name is Dawn Didier. I
22 live at 1166 Cody Court, which is in the
23 Blackberry Woods subdivision, and I would just
24 like to say we didn't even get that one piece of
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1 paper that you refer to, we luckily saw the notice
2 in the paper, so -- But I did go on the website
3 and was able to dig up some information, so...
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4 We have two major concerns and then
07:31PM 5 some other concerns and I have several questions,
6 I don't know if you respond to questions or not in
7 the public hearing setting, but one of our major
8 concerns is that we would like to keep the quality
9 of the homes in the neighborhood itself as what
07:31PM 10 was promised to us when we decided to buy there
11 and build there.
12 We did look on Crestview's website
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13 and it appears as if they do build nice homes, but
14 it seems from the stuff that I read that they can
07:31PM 15 sell the lots to other builders, and so one of the
16 concerns that we have is in Section 29B of the
17 original annexation agreement where it talks about
18 successors and assigneds, the third sentence in
19 that paragraph.
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07:32PM 20 It says that, The obligations and
21 duties of the owners and the developer hereunder
22 shall not be deemed transferred to or assumed by
23 any purchaser of an empty lot or of a lot improved
24 with a dwelling unit who acquires the same for
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1 residential occupation unless otherwise expressly
2 agreed to in writing by such purchaser.
3 And I guess my question then would
4 be does -- if they do sell them to another builder
07:32PM 5 for those builders to build the home on for
6 somebody else, are they not obligated to abide by
7 any of the restrictions that are in the annexation
8 agreement?
9 And specifically that would be
07:32PM 10 Section 19, which is the covenants, and Exhibit J,
11 which is the architectural standards.
12 So I just want to make sure that if
13 they sell to other builders that those builders
14 are going to have to abide by the architectural
07:32PM 15 standards and the covenants that, you know, we
16 were promised that there were going to be
17 restrictions on use and stuff like that, which
18 another major concern is the Section 19, which are
19 the covenants.
07:33PM 20 The original agreement required
21 McCue Builders to impose covenants, conditions and
22 restrictions relating to facade materials,
23 accessory structures and other building
24 restrictions at the time the final -- of the final
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1 plat submittal.
2 McCue Builders did develop them, but
3 they did not record them, so that means none of
4 the lots in there have to abide by any
07:33PM 5 restrictions, and I know that the CCR's talk about
6 the establishment of the homeowner's association,
7 but they also talk about restrictions of use, you
8 know, so right now there are -- none of the lots
9 have any restrictions of use. You know, we don't
07:33PM 10 want someone going in there and putting in a chain
11 link fence or something like that that's not
12 supposed to be there.
13 So another question that I have is
14 is Crestview going to come up with their own CCR's
07:33PM 15 and record those so at least those lots that are
16 affected by their petition to amend would have
17 CCR's located on them, so there would be some
18 restricti -ons of use because we want the
19 neighborhood to be the quality that, you know we.
07:34PM 20 were promised, and if they are only asking for
21 certain amendments of the agreement, then the
22 covenants would still stand because they did not
23 ask for an amendment for Section 19, so I would
24 ask that they are required to have CCR's and that
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1 they are required to record them for the lots that
2 they are going to be buying because, if not, then
3. future builders and purchasers down the road, they
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07:34PM 5 recorded. Because when we bought, you know, it's
6 not on our title insurance, it wasn't on our title
7 commitment, the CCR's. And in the CCR's it's
8 stated that the purpose was to secure an
9 attractive harmonious residential development
07:34PM 10 having continuing appeal. We want that to
11 continue.
12 Another major concern we have is the
13 homeowner's association versus the SSA. One of
14 the enticements McCue used when we bought was that
07:35PM 15 there is no SSA, there is no SSA, come and build
16 in Blackberry Woods, there is not going to be an
17 SSA here. We would not have bought there if there
18 was an SSA.
19 Section 20 of the original agreement
07:35PM 20 states that a dormant SSA would be enacted at the
21 time of the final plat approval. First final plat
22 approval was May 21st of 2007, and then apparently
23 there was a corrected one that was approved on
24 July 20th of 2007, and so my question is was there
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1 a dormant SSA that was enacted at the time that
2 the final plat was approved as is stated in the
3 original annexation agreement.
4 I've seen a couple of drafts for
07:35PM 5 this first amendment that, Crestview has proposed.
6 In the first draft that I saw, in that section it
7 said that there would be an SSA that would be
8 established to include all parcels in Blackberry
9 Woods and they wanted it immediately activated,
07:36PM 10 but in the April 28th draft that I read, it talked'
11 about waiving the requirement of the homeowner's
12 association for the R4 District only, it didn't
13 mention anything about the R2 District, and so
14 another question I have is does that mean the
07:36PM 15 homeowner's association for R2 District stands?
16 And then it also -- then in the
17 second paragraph, that's actually Section 6A in
18 the proposed first amendment, and 6B talks about
19 then implementing a backup SSA.
07:36PM 20 Now my question for that is you took
21 out the words "all parcels in Blackberry Woods ",
22 so does that mean that this new backup SSA, if, in
23 fact, that happens, will apply only to the lots
24 that are going to be owned by Crestview Builders
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1 and not by the ones that the homeowners already
2 own in Blackberry Woods?
3 I don't think that we should be
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07:37PM 5 first dormant SSA wasn't an active one, it said it
6 was going to be under the original annexation
7 agreement.
8 I think that a current SSA, if, in
9 fact, you're going to do that, should only apply
07:37PM 10 to the parcels that are included in Crestview' s
11 petition, which are not the ones that are already
12 owned by the homeowners that live there.
13 Another question that I had was on
14 the detention ponds, and I think Mr. Kramer might
07:37PM 15 have answered this. My understanding from the
16 April 30th, 2010 memo from Staff said that the
17 ponds were not within compliance of the landscape
18 plan or the City's landscape ordinance, and I
19 believe he said that they were going to clean
07:37PM 20 those up and bring those up to your standards and
21 that they were going to pay for that themselves.
- 22 I just wanted to make sure of that, that that
23 wasn't going to be put on our backs as well.
24 Another question that I have is that
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1 Crestview's application and petition to amend,
2 which was dated April 12th of 2010, stated that
3 they were the contract purchaser and that Castle
4 Bank was the holder of legal title, and I believe
07:38PM 5 Mr. Kramer also-Paid that Castle Bank is the
6 actual owner of all of those lots that are
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8 amendment that is before you tonight, which I
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07:38PM 10 states in.there that Crestview is the owner of
11 record.
12 That obviously is not true, and so I
13 don't know how you can approve an agreement that
14 says that they are the owners when they are not
07:38PM 15 the owners because they're as signatories as the
16 owners and that is not the case. The contract
17 purchaser does not mean that they are the owners
18 of record.
19 Another thing that we were concerned
07:38PM 20 about is that -- i'f this passes that. Crestview
21 would be required to maintain the lots in a clean
- 22 and presentable condition, including mowing and
23 cleaning up the junk.
24 Last year the weeds on both of the
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1 lots along our lot probably grew to three or
2 four feet high. Eventually McCue did come out and
3 mow them only because I called and asked them to.
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07:39PM 5 Crestview to ask them to come out and mow or are
6 they going to be required to do that? I would
7 imagine the City has an ordinance that it can't be
8 higher than eight or 12 inches, whatever it might
9 be.
07:39PM 10 And also in Lots 5 and 6, which is
11 between our lot and Scott's lot, there is a lot of
12 junk. There is wood, there is a blue tarp, which
13 who knows what's under that, there is a big
14 twisted up piece of metal, there is a pile of
07:39PM 15 gravel, and it looks just pretty bad. And also
16 Lot 1, right when you come in the subdivision, all
17 of McCue's signs that were in the individual lots
18 are just thrown in there and that looks pretty
19 bad, too, so I would hope when they do, in fact,
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07:40PM 20 buy it, Crestview buys it, they would go and clean
21 it up so at least it looks nice.
22 Another issue that I had with what
23 Mr. Kramer said is that McCue did, in fact,
24 establish the homeowner's association and they did
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1 record it with the Secretary of State, but they
2 are not in good standing. I checked the website
3 today.
4 We have paid assessments to that
07:40PM 5 homeowner's association. Yes. We had to pay an
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7 gotten some bills throughout the -- you know, the
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9 obviously, but we have paid assessments. I don't
07:40PM 10 know where that money is. Hopefully we can find
11 out from McCue where that money is, hopefully it
12 can go to help with the common areas. So we have
13 paid some money into that assessment.
14 One other thing, and this would be
07:40PM 15 for the City, Section 12 did provide for the park
16 donation. Is it my understanding that it will be
17 eventually made into a park at some point? The
18 lots -- there was 4.32 acres given to -- Do you
19 know when that will happen?
07:41PM 20 MR. OLSON : I don't.
21 MAYOR BURD: Mr. Kramer, do you want to
22 address any of these questions?
23 MR. KRAMER: Yeah, I think I could
24 answer many of Miss Didier's fairly quickly. Are
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2 MS. DIDIER: I am done for now.
3 MR. KRAMER: Oh, okay. We'll see how I
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4 did keeping notes. In terms of the original
07:41PM 5 annexation agreement, that's why Crestview is here
6 with a very specific petition with a very few
7 number of changes, because anything that's not
8 actually voted upon to be modified is binding on
9 successors, heirs and assigneds.
07:41PM 10 So if Crestview closes and purchases
11 the property from Castle Bank and if the City
12 approves the specific changes that they're asking
13 in this amendment, they still, as the owner of the
14 property, are bound to each and every original
07:42PM 15 term of the original annexation agreement, the PUD
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17 into, other than these specific changes. That's
18 why they're asking for these.
19 In terms of major concern about the
07:42PM 20 draft of covenants, we know Mr. McCue prepared
21 them, he simply never recorded them, and, again,
22 we're not patting him on the back about that, I
23 suspect at the time he planned on building all of
24 the homes himself is why he developed the
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1 subdivision, so he probably wasn't worried about
2 other builders coming in.
3 Crestview Builders has been served
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4 with a copy of those covenants that McCue did from
07:42PM 5 the bank and they plan to honor those covenants,
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6 and frankly would even like to upgrade them a bit
7 in terms of quality in some of the conditions that
8 are in them, so they do plan on getting the
9 covenants recorded.
07:43PM 10 Mr. McCue allegedly, when he closed
11 with Linden Builders -- or Linden Underground,
12 actually had them sign a receipt that they had
13 viewed those covenants and agreed to be bound by
14 them, so we have asked them to turn that-over to
07:432M 15 the bank and Crestview Builders, but the covenants
16 were a definite go on.
17 In terms of the SSA,.it's always a
18 confusing subject, and, again, I think we ought to
19 step back. You folks have heard it ad infinitum
07:43PM 20 here at City Council about SSA's. There are two
21 types of SSA's, as most of us know. There is a
22 special tax service area, just taking Grande
23 Reserve as a example, where basically what a
24 developer does is they literally have the
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1 purchasers of lots participate with the cost of
2 the public improvements.
3 So generally the cost of public
4 improvements for a lot might be somewhere between
07:44PM 5 30 and $50,000. The theory is that if the
6 homeowner is participating in that SSA bond and
7 paying that over a 20 to 30 -year period, they
8 should be able to buy a home then 30,000 cheaper
9 'at market value than if a developer was putting
07:44PM 10 all that in, borrowing the money, and so on.
11 I'm sure what McCue Builders
12 marketed this property as -- and I'm familiar with
13 their ads -- was that there was no SSA of that
i 14 type; in other words, that its owners were not
07:44PM 15 buying into paying a 30 -year bond to pay for
16 water, sewer or roads, and that still is true.
17 The original annexation agreement,
18 like all of yours on residential developments, had
19 a dormant or backup SSA, and that's the residents'
07:44PM 20 of the city as a whole protection, that if there
21 is a homeowner's association at a newer
22 development and they don't maintain the common
23 areas -- and again, here we have three common
24 areas, we've got the entry sign and the two
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_ 1 detention ponds -- then down the line if a
2 homeowner's association doesn't do that, the city
3 has a way of levying that cost just against the
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07:45PM 5 the city s a whole and we are asking in the
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7 original dormant was part of the original
8 annexation agreement.
9 Now, with the ponds, again, we've
07:45PM 10 got a very lengthy document that gets attached to
11 this as an exhibit. As I have indicated, they are
12 functioning from an.engineering and stormwater
13 review, it's more of an aesthetic and plant -type
14 that's not now.
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16 the obligation to do all of that work at its
17 expense, and it provides a five -year maintenance
18 period, so even though the dormant would be
19 placed -- or put in place now, you still have the
07:45PM 20 developer maintaining that for a five -year period.
21 There was a question I believe about
22 owner of record, and that's absolutely correct
23 what we said, Castle Bank, N.A. is the owner of
24 record here.
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1 Again, if this amendment is approved
2 by the City Council, it will not be executed by
3 the developer until they close on the property and
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4 it won't be effective until they close on the
07:46PM 5 property because, again, Castle Bank obviously
6 wants to make sure that if it's Crestview that
7 they are dealing with, they are the ones who
8 close, so it would be Crestview executing it as
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07:46PM 10 developing the property.
11 Castle Bank is not a developer,
12 that's not in their corporate charter, they don't
13 have permission to do it, so they would not be
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07:46PM 15 If it was not Crestview Builders
16 here, you could end up with a situation where
17 Mr. Johnson talked about, that you could have an
18 investor coming in -- and that's not to demonize
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19 anybody as an investor, that's sometimes the way
07:47PM 20 business works, but we have a lot of unbuilt
21 subdivisions and titled land around the city
22 that's selling at a very, very distressed price by
23 investors who have the capital to do it who have
24 no intention of going in and finishing the
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1 improvements or bettering the neighborhood.
2 Here Castle has gone out of its way
3 to fund a reputable developer that's already been
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07:47PM 5 of the conditions and profiles they were looking
6 for was somebody strong enough to come in and
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7 start developing again so they don't leave that
.8 neighborhood sitting with unbuilt lots, the debris
9 Mrs. Didier talked about next door and down the
07:47PM 10 street for a lengthy period of time.'
11 Again, if the amendment is approved,
12 as we have indicated, the closing would take place
13 in 30 to 45 days at the most. Crestview would go
14 in and clean up the vacant lots, they would
07:48PM 15 maintain the mowing and the project, and contrary
16 to -- and I need to flip over to Mr. Johnson's-
17 concern, they have not asked not to finish the
18 roads in the western portion of the subdivision,
19 they have simply said we'll finish what is started
07:48PM 20 with the base coats now, and when that's closer to
21 be building out, we'll post the letter of credit,
22 we can't sell any property until we do that, and
23 then we'll go in and complete the rest of it in an
24 orderly fashion.
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1 There was no mystery of how Linden's
2' acquired some lots. It's public record. McCue
3 ran out of money. And no, he was not able to
4 develop it under the current agreement. He lost
07:48PM 5 the property unfortunately.
6 Linden's had bills for the
7 underground sewer and water they put in and it was
8 a way to pay off a local contractor so there
9 wasn't litigation or anything, so Linden's took
07:49PM 10 lots in exchange for payment. No secret, no
11 deviousness whatsoever.
12 In terms of the park donation,
13 again, the original annexation agreement that
14 Crestview would be bound by requires that
07:49PM 15 dedication. We have a strict ordinance in the
16 city of what standard that park property has to be
17 brought up to to turn over. They're not asking
18 for any relief from that whatsoever.
19 And if you want, I'll answer a few
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07:49PM 20, of Mr. Johnson's questions when I am up here as
21 well.
22 MAYOR BURD: Go ahead.
23 MR. KRAMER: Number one, the petitioner
24 has not asked to get rid of any existing City
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1 building codes. All they've asked in the
2 amendment is to be sure of the codes they are
3 dealing with right now and asking that those codes
4 that are in place today, which is the
07:49PM 5 International Building Code, be the code that this
6 gets developed up through December 31 of 2018,
7 which is something you've done in other instances
8 in the city.
9 I don't know where a reference came
07:50PM 10 in regard to this petitioner or myself in regard
11 to Windett Ridge. Don't represent them, we didn't
12 mention them at the Economic Development Committee
13 last night, and you have never heard us say, Us,
14 too. We asked for certain specific things.
07:50PM 15 The only fee that they have asked
16 any modification of was the City transportation
17 fee, and they have agreed to do some off -site
18 actual road work in exchange for that. They
19 haven't asked any other fee forgiveness.
07:50PM 20 And, frankly, in 2012, you can lower
21 your fees. I think the village president of
22 Plainfield took a real courageous stand about
23 60 days ago, he did a letter to the entire
24 community that said, we hear things like
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1 Mr. Johnson said -- and I respect him for what he
2 said, I just disagree -- that we don't need
3 residential development.
4 Well, any of you who have driven
07:51PM 5 through Plainfield downtown the last year or so
6 seen there's been a wonderful
7 renaissance of restaurants and community
8 development downtown.
9 The mayor in this letter indicated
07:51PM 10 that we have a real problem, we've got all these
11 wonderful new businesses and they are just dying
12 on the vine because we don't have enough
13 residential, and right now it's a very big
14 problem. We can't get people in because our
07:51PM' 15 building permits are costing over $30,000 in
16 impact and entitlement fees, we're not going to
17 get anybody pulling permits, so on an interim
18 basis they have actually cut their impact fees
19 virtually in half. Very courageous stand. Much
07:51PM 20 like the federal government with the stimulus
21 program. If nothing is happening, let's try and
22 stimulate it in some fashion.
23 Crestview isn't asking you to lower
24 anything but the transportation fee, and they are
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1 taking up a share of off -site work. All they're
2 saying is lock in the fees you have now so that we
3 know what our costs are and we can live with them.
4 So in that respect, I think it is a
07:52PM 5 good agreement for the citizens. It's not asking
6 anybody to sacrifice. It's not asking to get out
7 of anything. And, frankly, I think the
8 neighborhood is way better off getting, again, a
9 good quality developer who keeps the covenants in
07:52PM 10 place, who gets on with development and moves
11 ahead.
12 Mr. Johnson asked about a
13 development that Crestview or its principals have
14 don'e out in the county called Shadow Creek. I bet
07:52PM 15 you the City of Yorkville would love to have that
16 development. While there hasn't been a lot of
17 permits pulled recently, those homes are in the
18 five to 12,000 - square foot range. The tax bills
19 in those are like mini referendums for the school
07:52PM 20 district.
21 It's no secret why those homes or
22 permits haven't been pulled quicker. In Kendall
23 County -- and you can ask a number of realtors who
24 watch the Multiple Listing Service -- ,there has
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1 been less than a half a dozen homes since last
2 July that have sold in Kendall County in excess of
3 $500,000. You simply can't get a loan on homes
4 that big anymore, so it's got to be a cash builder
07:53PM 5 who doesn't need a loan.
6 The homes in this neighborhood would
7 be a much more affordable type of housing, and yet
8 they're not cheap at all. The covenants are still
9 the same.
07:53PM 10 So I think I've answered, or tried
11 to, most of the questions, and we'll be happy to
12 listen to any more comment and again try and
13 answer. Thank you.
14 MAYOR BURD: Lynn?
07:53PM 15 MR. OLSON: Just one technical issue.
16 If Alderman Golinski is still on the line, he is
17 having trouble hearing, so if you can speak into
18 the microphone, preferably not to cause feedback,
19 it would be appreciated.
07:53PM 20 MS. DUBAJIC : I am Lynn Dubaj ic, the
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22 Development Corporation.
23 Many of you know that I have been
24 working diligently with many of the retailers
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1 throughout our town, and specifically at Kendall
2 Marketplace. I am often questioned about what's -
3 going on with Kendall Marketplace, there has not
4 been a single outlot sold there, and we are
07:54PM 5 getting some interest as the economy does seem to
6 be coming back, and one of the questions that I am
7 asked again and again is when are we going to
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8 really start to see permits pulled in Yorkville
9 and get some homes started.
07:54PM 10 I have built a house twice in my
11 life and I know what it's like to live in a
12 subdivision that is not finished and you want it
13 to get done, you want the sidewalks to connect,
14 and this subdivision is very close obviously to
07:54PM 15 Kendall Marketplace, it would be an excellent
16 example to point to as I work with these retailers
17 and restaurants that are looking at our community
18 to see that there is activity in Yorkville, that
19 we have a success story.
07:55PM 20 I've known Crestview Builders for
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21 many, many, many years, and I know that if you do
22 some research on them that they are an excellent
23 quality builder and, you know, while these houses
24 might not be the size of the houses in Shadow
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1 Creek, I wouldn't want to have to deal with a
2 house in Shadow Creek, they are too big, but I
3 think that it is really wonderful that it's a
4 local builder who actually lives in Kendall County
07:55PM 5 that's willing to come to our town to take this on
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6 and stimulate some things so that we can see other
7 things happening in our town as far as commercial,
8 retail, restaurants, and I hope that this is just
9 the beginning, that we can see the success story
07 :55PM 10 translate into other success stories throughout
11 our town. Thank you.
12 MAYOR BURD: Would anyone else care to
13 make a statement?
14 MR. GINOCCHIO: Please.
07:56PM 15 MAYOR BURD: Yes. Yes, sir.
16 MR. GINOCCHIO: Thank you, Mark, for
17 putting your time into this, and Dawn, I
18 appreciate your concerns in going over what little
19 could be made available to us.
07:56PM 20 I live at 868 Purcell and I'm real
21 proud to be a resident now of Yorkville, Illinois.
22 I lived in Princeton, Illinois for 20 years. I've
23 made my livelihood in Kendall County for almost
24 40 years. That's probably how long I know the
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1 distinguished Mr. Kramer.
2 And it's very assuring to hear what
3 Dan has said to us tonight, and the same way with
4 the economic, is that we are here to watch this
07:57PM 5 growth go, and I, too, received this notice in my
6 mailbox and I responded the next morning to come
7 to the City Hall for my first trip, and I received
8 in writing what you are voting on tonight.
9 If this is all you received, it's
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07:57PM 10 not real, real complete, and I think that's what
11 concerns me more. Yes, there are different kinds
12 of special services area. In fact, that -- those
13 letters, SSA, is almost like a dirty word. You
14 have to be very, very careful on how you use it.
07:57PM 15 So when I read this initial draft
16 that was made available to us, none of the
17 exhibits that they are refer to here are in this
18 document for us to read and have an opportunity to
19 truly be prepared, and I don't know if the
07:58PM 20 language is specific enough.
21 I mean, yes, I had to go out and get
22 a lawnmower and cut my lawn this summer and it was
23 kind of fun, but I did make association dues
24 payments the last year, and the last year I think
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1 it was probably one of Billy's sons had been
2 cutting the grass and the hills around us and a
3 little bit around the ponds.
4 I cut the two hills around us, it's
07:58PM 5 kind of fun to do it, but -- and I will do it as
6 long as I am capable of doing it because everybody
7 wants to help keep their area looking nice, and
8 yes, I kind of moved those ugly pieces of wood and
9 rocks around and that type of thing, but that's
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07:58PM 10 not really what specifically concerns us, is that
11 I just see some of the language so broad, you
12 know, they want to allow a special services area.
13 It wasn't specific enough for my reading of this,
14 that it just was limited to the entryway and the
07:59PM 15 ponds, and then what about the hills, and I wonder
16 if I'm going to end up paying for the sidewalk
17 that goes all the way from the entryway all the_
18 way past pond number one and then along the next
19 road and along this whole Cannonball Trail because
07:59PM 20 their accesses are all on the side streets, but
21 Cannonball Trail appears to have a sidewalk that
22 is going to go all the way along, and it's kind of
23 laid out for it, but when I hear this back tax --
24 let's call it what -it is -- I just want to make
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1 sure that when you go to vote that you know that
2 the language is specific enough and that if for
3 some reason we are all chipping in together to pay
4 for someone to cut, the grass -- and somebody was
07:59PM 5' out there today taking care of the flower bed I
6 think, isn't that right? Yeah, somebody was out
7 there taking care of that.
8 And so we're not -- you know, if all
9 the lots are contributing to that on an equal
08:OOPM 10 basis, then that sounds fine, but that's not
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12 lot and a lot with a house'all pay the same
13 amount. I don't know.
14 And that's what I caution you on, is
08:OOPM 15 that when I went through this, then I read it a
16 second time and third time, you know, it's not the
17 end of the world that I lose my association, which
18. gives us better control and opportunities to
19 control bills and make sure that the quality of
08:OOPM 20 the work is done at the level we want.
21 If we turn that responsibility over
22 to the City, I am enjoying Yorkville and I think
23 that the City Fathers and the people responsible
24 to maintain those areas hopefully will maintain it
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1 at the level that's acceptable to everybody. It's
2 kind of like common sense.
3 But what I see here as what is
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08:OOPM 5 when Dan tells me that it's -- that they're going
6 to do this and it sounds real good, and if Dan
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8 convinced, because I have relied on his word many
9 other times in other transactions, that that's
08:01PM 10 what's going to happen, but because when I hear
11 fellas like Mark talk, he's got a little more
12 experience than I do, he's been in this area a
13 little bit longer, and it sounds like that we've
14 had dealings with other developers, and so I just
08:01PM 15 caution us to make sure that whatever is agreed on
16 is specific enough and not -- this is awfully
17 open- ended, and that's what I ask, is that it be
18 more articulate as to what the demands are,
19 especially if there is going to be a back tax.
08:O1PM 20 Does that mean they're going to go
21 back -- because I've been there the longest, three
22 years, that I'm going to get three years worth of
23 taxes? Don't know. It could -- you know, it all
24 depends on who is interpreting it and who is
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1 reading it. I just don't find it specific enough.
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2 But I do enjoy using my lawnmower. Thank you.
3 MAYOR BURD: Thank you.
4 ALDERMAN SPEARS: Could you state your
08:01PM 5 name?
6 MAYOR BURD: Excuse me. Could you
7 explain about that, the SSA, somebody here, this
8 is an amendment?
9 And I think part of the problem
08:02PM 10 perhaps is you didn't get the original document;
11 is that correct? You just got the amendment?
12 MR. GINOCCHIO: Well, we received this,
13 and in there it says that the form of the amended
14 PUD agreement is on file with the City Clerk, so I
08:02PM 15 went to. the City Clerk, and my wife, Susan, went
16 around and passed around to some of the neighbors
17 a copy of what we read, and this document, which
18 was -- you know, we were told to go and pick up, I
19 suspect it's the same thing that Mark picked up
08:02PM 20 and probably got a little frustrated, and I'm sure
21 Dawn probably picked it up, too, because she was
22 reading from paragraph six, which is the special
23 assessment, there is no mention in here about a
24 back tax, so that had to come from the internet or
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1 just from trying to get more information.
2 MAYOR BURD: Right. I think she was
3 also referencing, though, the original document
4 that this amends. This is only a few amendments
08:02PM 5 to a much larger document and the much larger
6 document has more detail to it. These are only
7 amendments to a few pages.
8 Is that what you have, the original
9 document?
08:03PM 10 MR. GARDNER: Right.
11 MAYOR BURD: Could you show them how big
12 this document is? This is a very detailed
13 document. I mean, more -- a very detailed
14 document.
08:03PM. 15 MR. GINOCCHIO: That part I can
16 appreciate --
17 MAYOR BURD: Right.
18 MR. GINOCCHIO: -- but the changes they
19 are making reference to, especially in paragraph
08:03PM 20 six, as Dawn pointed out to you, you know, because
21 this starts on just the lots that Crestview
22 Builders is anticipating closing their deal on,
23 but paragraph six alludes to all the lots in the
24 subdivision are subject to a special services, and
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1 it implies -- and I heard Dan say it was just for
2 the --
3 MAYOR BURD: Backup SSA.
4 MR. GINOCCHIO: It's just for the
08:03PM 5 entryway and the ponds. But as I just mentioned
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6 to you, you know, I think there is more common
7 area out there than you might think because there
8 is more sidewalk that needs to be coming in, there
9 are some nice hills that are not on specific lots.
08:04PM 10 They are right along here.
11 MAYOR BURD: But I think the City
12 Administrator could define public improvements
13 versus --
14 MR. OLSON: Sure. The creation of the
08:04PM 15 backup SSA was only to cover maintenance of the
16 common areas, so detention basins and the area
17 around it that's not contained within a
18 residential lot, If there is a lot that contains a
19 public monument on it or if there is a median in
08:04PM 20 the roadway, those type of things.
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22 Attorney Kramer, correct me if I am wrong -- but
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1 that's the western portion of the smaller lots,
2 but, in turn, we were establishing an SSA on all
3 of the lots in the subdivision to maintain the
4 common areas, maintain the detention basins going
08:04PM 5 forward, and do the mowing of those areas, and so
6 I believe what was contemplated -- although I
7 don't know if it's necessarily written clear
8 enough in the agreement -- is that the HOA that's
9 required under R2 portion would actually be
08:05PM 10 dissolved because I believe that in the agreement
11 it does state that the purpose of the homeowner's
12 association, the R2 portion, is to do the things
13 that the backup SSA would be created for.
14 MR. GINOCCHIO: There are two areas on
08:05PM 15 the association. One, if' had your grass cut,
16 it cost like 1400 and some odd dollars for the
17 summer. The second part was if you didn't have
18 your grass cut, it cost like 300 or $400, and I'd
19 like to get to -- you know, again -- and if I get
08:05PM 20 a tax bill and it's 3, $400 to cut those -- all,
21 you know, for the rest.of the summer, that's not
22 going to hurt, but, you know, because we don't
23 know or we're a little bit -- we just wanted to
24 make sure this evening, and I think that's why
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1 most of the folks turned out, one, we wanted to
2 make sure that we didn't have any kind of an 18,
3 20, $30,000 bill coming our way..
4 MR. OLSON: No.
08:05PM 5 MR. GINOCCHIO: Secondly, that if I
6 don't have an association that I have to pay 3,
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9 and I don't have to complain to the mayor that it
08:06PM 10 never gets cut, then you're going to have happy
11 neighbors and then hopefully the growth can
12 continue.
13 But my concern is I just didn't see
14 this specific enough spelling that out for me that
08:06PM 15 I felt it necessary that I better show up here
16 tonight to make sure that something is not rammed
17 down our throats.
18 MR. OLSON: Sure. Section 6A and 6B
19 discuss the contemplation of a backup SSA. To
08:06PM 20 actually form the backup SSA, there would have to
21 be I think there is two ordinances; one of them is
22 called an enactment ordinance and the other one is
23 called a resolution, if I remember correctly.
24 It's been a couple years since we've done it.
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1 And so in those two ordinances,
2 that's where we would establish the dollar amount,
3 estimate it, you know, there would be a cap in the
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08:06PM 5 never able to levy beyond this amount without
6 going back to the residents and getting their
7 approval, and that would further detail, you know,
8 which areas, you know, there would be,a legal
9 description of the areas to be maintained and the
08:07PM 10 services to be provided.
11 MR. GINOCCHIO: So are those dollar
12 amounts set before you vote or that all happens
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14 MR. OLSON: That would all happen
08:07PM 15 afterwards because we're not doing those
16 ordinances simultaneously with this amendment.
17 MAYOR BURD: This doesn't create the
18 SSA --
19 MR. OLSON: Correct.
08:07PM 20 MAYOR BURD: -- this just says that
21 there would be one, and then we have to have
22 another ordinance that we would pass that would
23 give -- spell out everything about it.
24 MR. GINOCCHIO: Keeping in mind that the
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1 folks that purchased in this subdivision and are
2 currently living there came in at top dollar --
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4 twice of what I ever -- three times what I ever
08:07PM 5 paid in Princeton, but that's okay, I am
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6 concerned, and that's what I raise as a resident
7 of Blackberry subdivision.
8 I am concerned that the charges I
9 incur from the City will not be in line with what
08:08PM 10 I would have got charged by the association.
11 That's one of my concerns. I mean, I have to be
12 candid and blunt about it.
13 So, Mayor, I'm just letting you know
14 that --
15 MAYOR BURD: I appreciate it, right.
16 MR. GINOCCHIO: -- I don't have a real
17 problem with a lot of things, but I think just
18 make sure that it's spelled out and not so
19 generalized, and then, secondly, as long as the
08:08PM 20 price is very fair, then, you know, you're not
21 going to get any complaint call from a
22 constituent.
23 MAYOR BURD: Could I ask you to state
24 your name for the record, the --
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1 MR. GINOCCHIO: Yeah. My name again is
2 John Ginocchio, and you spell that
3 G- I- N- O- C- C- H -I -O, and I have a son living in
4 Yorkville on the south side and I have a son
08:08PM 5 living in Yorkville on the north side.
6 MAYOR BURD: Thank you.
7 MR. GINOCCHIO: Yeah.
8 MAYOR.BURD: And also to clarify, the
9 sidewalks and the streets should be public
08:09PM 10 infrastructure and they would be taken over by the
11 City to be maintained, is that correct?
12 MR. OLSON: Correct. And until that
13 point they are the responsibility of the
14 developers in the common areas. If you're in
08:09PM 15 front of a residential lot, it would be the
16 responsibility of the builder that's building the
17 homes to maintain the sidewalks until the home is
18 built and completed, and then it's turned over to
19 the City.
08:09PM 20 So maintenance of the parkway is
21 always on, you know, the home that is adjacent to
22 it, but if it's adjacent to a common area, that
23 would be part of the backup SSA.
24 MR. GINOCCHIO: I don't know if you're
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1 familiar with the small hills that go along
2 Cannonball Trail. Parkway is one thing, it's nice
3 and flat. These are hills. These are six foot,
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7 be, in my estimation, maybe not the parkway, and
8 that's'my concern, is I just don't know if
9 everything was addressed in this petition. All
08:10PM 10 right. Thank you for an opportunity.
11 MAYOR BURD: Thank you. Thank you very
12 much. Mr. Kramer, did you have any answers to
13 that?
14 MR. KRAMER: Well, I -- Excuse me,
08:1OPM 15 hopefully, Gary, can you hear okay?
16 ALDERMAN GOLINSKI: Yeah, I'm trying to
17 hang in there and follow the best I can.
18 MR. KRAMER: Okay. I've never been
19 accused of being a wilting lily. I'll try and be
08:lOPM 20 loud.
21 One of the misconceptions that seems
22 to keep going on tonight -- and I want to clarify
23 it -- is the original PUD and annexation agreement
24 had this language for creation of a backup or
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1 dormant SSA, and paragraph 6A and 6B -- and I
2 realize it will become more clear with the actual
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4 hearing -- but they do specifically limit in
08:11PM 5 paragraph 6B that the dormant or backup SSA is for
6 maintenance of the common areas only, and the only
7 three common areas that the homeowner's
8 association or the backup SSA would affect would
9 be the two detention ponds and the monument area.
08:11PM 10 In answer to John Ginocchio' s
11 concerns -- and I agree, I've lost my hair, it has
12 turned gray, we've known each other a long time --
13 the sidewalks going in along Cannonball, the main,
14 those are developer improvements. Crestview would
08:11PM 15 be required to put those in. Those are not
16 homeowner association maintained.
17 If the homeowner's association
18 became active and wants the detention ponds and
19 once that sign area are turned over and the
08:11PM 20 maintenance period ends, if they choose to do that
21 through a homeowner's association, then the City
22 would make no levy under the backup SSA, but that
23 language was already in the original agreement.
24 The concern of Crestview was because
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1 it was hit or miss about what the prior developer
2 did with the association, that maybe it was better
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3 to go and activate the dormant right away so
4 everybody knew it was there, but it doesn't
08:12PM 5 shorten that five. -year maintenance period on the
6 ponds. That's still a developer obligation.
7 With respect to the difference
8 between the R4 and the R2 areas, the R2 was just
9 normal sized, single- family lots. R4 was a little
08:12PM 10 bit smaller lot. And, John, that was where that
11 higher outside maintenance was.
12 As I said, that was something that
13 McCue Builders promoted, Crestview has not had
14 experience; and that's where they are asking to
08:12PM 15 get rid of that association, so there would be no
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16 more of those. If they were that high, if they
17 were 13 or $1400 per lot, that would go. That's
18 the only one that we are asking to get rid of. If
19 the homeowners want an active association covering
08:13PM 20 everybody, that's fine with Crestview.
21 Before the enacting and enabling
22 ordinance that Mr. Olson, the City Administrator,
23 referenced, there has to be a public hearing and
24 they have to be noticed as well, and, again, they
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1 would set a levy maximum so you would know the
2 maximum amount that could be levied for that.
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4 anything in the near term because the developer is
08:13PM 5 going to have to install it and it has a
6 maintenance period, and in the meantime if the
7 homeowner's association comes into being, you
8 won't have to make the levy at all, but that would
9 be the subject of another public hearing and,
08:13PM 10 again, Crestview would like to close before that
11 happens, of course. Thank you. Hopefully that
12 cleared it up a bit.
13 MAYOR BURD: Okay. Is there anyone else
14 who would like to ask -- Yes. Yes, sir.
08:14PM 15 MR. MILLIRON: ' Todd Milliron, 61
16 Cotswold Drive, Yorkville. I just had a few
17 questions, maybe Mr. Kramer can answer those.
18 Couple of these citizens have
19 indicated that they have been paying homeowner's
08:14PM 20 association fees, but nobody has actually
21 accounted for them. I haven't heard anybody say
22 where that money went.
23 Also, I'd like to point out that I
24 believe that the responsibility for notifying
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1 these people and giving them timely information
2 and all that falls upon the petitioner.
3 In the past I believe that
4 whether -- it's the petitioner's responsibility to
08:14PM 5 make sure that he notifies people properly and
6 gives them all the information they can to make an
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7 informed decision not only for you, but for the
8 affected residents that already bought there, and
9 I wonder if that's happened, and.I question why
08:15PM 10 there is such a hurry up to do this and vote on it
11 tonight.
12 I'm in business and I make offers
13 all the time for insurance, and the offers I make
14 are good today and they'll be good two weeks from
08:15PM 15 now or four weeks from now unless somebody changes
16 their rates, but usually that doesn't happen, so I
17 would ask that maybe you might want to consider
18 giving this a little more time.
19 And then the next question I guess
08:15PM 20 would be for this run -out date in July, this
21 five -year run -out on the fee schedule, would one
22 of those fees be like, I don't know, the City
23 building fee that, you know, under the old
24 schedule was around $150 for a permit, then it
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1 goes to like $4,000 or more, Bart? What is it?
2 50, 100 or --
3 MR. OLSON: $5,509.
4 MR. MILLIRON: So it's a big difference
08:15PM 5 there. You're talking roughly 5400 bucks or
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7 whatever the old fee schedule versus this new fee
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8 schedule.that they want to waive.
9 What other fees are affected besides
08:16PM 10 that one?
11 MAYOR BURD: From what I understood,
12 they were going to pay the fees. They're not
13 waiving them. They are going to pay them before
14 that date.
08:16PM 15 MR. OLSON: They always have the ability
16 to pay off the fees upfront before the expiration
17 of the fee lock, so I was under the assumption
.18 that regardless of whether or not the fee lock was
19 extended, that they would probably be doing that.
08:16PM 20 The only other fee that I can think
21 of that's increased would be the water connection
22 fee, which I believe is $3,700 for a single- family
23 unit right now and, in the original agreement, I
24 believe it was contemplated at 2600, so...
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1 MR. MILLIRON: All right. So those are
2 the questions I had. So you think that they would
3 have the ability to just go in and prepay those
4 fees upfront and lock in that $150?
08:16PM 5 MR. OLSON : Any developer can, yes.
6 MR. MILLIRON: All right. Those are the
7 questions I had. Thank you.
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8 MR. KRAMER: In answer to Mr. Milliron's
9 notice question, again, it's a petition to modify
08:17PM 10 a PUD; there actually is no notice required under
11 Illinois statutes other than the newspaper
12 publication, but we did a certified mailing at
13 considerable expense in advance, and what happens
14 is we generate a list from real estate tax bills,
08:17PM 15 then we give the City a copy of that list and they
16 look at their water billing and their GIS
17 coordinator.
18 When it came back, we had four that
19 were returned that the addresses were incorrect
08:17PM 20 between the county and the city system. They went
21 right back out and three of those four were picked
22 up. We've got one that wasn't returned.
23 It still looks like there's a couple
24 that slipped through the cracks between the two
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1 different lists, and I can't really give you a
2 good answer on that, but the bottom line is we did
3 the statutory notice with the newspaper
4 publication, we went an extra step with the
08:18PM 5 certified mailing that we were not required to.
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6 I had probably three calls, and I
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7 don't know if they were homeowners or lot owners,
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8 they only gave me first names, but we answered
9 questions in the last two weeks.
08:18PM 10 And in terms of expedited
11 scheduling, we asked if we could be on agendas.
12 We had no special meetings, we went through the
13 normal cycle, and we are here tonight after
14 Economic Development, so there is nothing unusual
08:18PM 15 in that respect.
16 The petitioner would like to
17 seasonably move along, and the bank, of course,
18 likes the idea again of having a live,
19 well- capitalized developer here who has built in
08:18PM 20 the city before.
21 One other comment that I neglected
22 to respond to, and, again, to some people union
23 jobs are important, some are not, I'm not making
24 any policy statement, but the statement that
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1 Crestview Builders is a non -union contractor is
2 absolutely untrue. They have many, many union
3 subs, carpenters, plumbers, electricians, and they
4 do use local people. So thank you.
08:19PM 5 MAYOR BURD: Would anybody else like to
6 make any comments? Yes, sir. Please state your
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8 MR. T. JOHNSON: Tim Johnson, 844 Carly
9 Court. I guess I have this little written out
08:19PM 10 spiel not nearly as long as my dad's, so I'm not
11 going to even read through it because most of the
12 questions have been answered.
13 My concern, though, still is with
14 the SSA, I know -- I'm not trying to toy with that
08:19PM 15 acronym, but -- and the homeowner's association.
16 The homeowners haven't even had a chance to run
17 the association, and I think that -- I think that
18 is due in the fact that, you know, if the
19 builder's going to be paying their portions and
08:20PM 20 the land owners that own properties out there are
21 going to pay their portions, I feel that we would
22 be able to get a subcontractor to maintain the
23 minimal areas that actually do need to get mowed
24 for probably a better price than what the City is
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1 going to do and get better results.
2 I know there is a couple of aldermen
3 here that have gone the other direction from a
4 homeowner's association to having the City take it
08:20PM 5 over, and I think they pay -- I don't know what it
6 is, I don't want to give a wrong figure -- but
7 $181 a year for the City to maintain the common
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8 areas in their development, and I kind of feel
9 that it could actually get done for much less than
08:20PM 10 that.
11 And being that from one portion that
12 I saw, the developer is looking to remove this
13 entire retention basin here, what they call
14 wetlands, from the actual development, with
08:21PM 15 removing the west portion, that wouldn't even --
16 as far as I am concerned wouldn't be part of the
17 homeowner's association's responsibility, so,
18 therefore, we would have to maintain this area,
'19 and then I guess this portion of the entrance,
08:21PM 20 which is, I don't know, about maybe a tenth of the
21 size of my yard.
22 So I feel that without seeing any
23 actual numbers of how much, you know, they're
24 expecting, you know, the homeowner's association,
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1 if it stayed in place, or the new SSA to take care
2 of this through the City, it's really hard to make
3 a good decision on what's going to be best for the
4 homeowners that are currently living there, not
I I I 08:21PM 5 the ones that still have the option of coming into
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6 the development.
7 I was glad that the lady brought up
8 the point about the covenants that are still not
9 recorded, so, you know, I talked,to my "attorney,
08:22PM 10 and basically without the required covenants, you
11 know, somebody could put up a detached garage or a
12 lot of things, and I think that could be -- that
13 needs to be tied into the agreement that these
14 covenants -- not a good intention, but written in
08:22PM 15 hard ink, that these covenants are going to be --
16 they are going to be established at the time of
17 closing, they will be recorded at that moment.
18 And then my other concern, too, is
19 the weed control in the empty lots around us. I
08:22PM 20 know McCue claimed to have tried to do his best in
21 keeping up with keeping the weeds down, but it
22 took numerous calls just to try to get any kind of
23 action, so I'm kind of worried about that, too,
24 because that's not really spelled out.
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1 The City -- the City, you know, you
2 know, didn't really put too much pressure on Billy
3 to keep up with these, the vacant lots, and if he
4 is strapped for money, then, you know, I can
08:23PM 5 understand the reason for that.
6 But I had spoken with Billy McCue
7 the other day when I was trying to get all this
8 into my brain of what's going on in our
9 development and he had said that he had been
08:23PM 10 working with Crestwood -- or Crestview and was
11 considering buying some of the lots back from
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12 Crestview to build on.
13 If he is in such, you know, dire
14 straits with his finances, he lost his development
08:23PM 15 and now he's going to come back in, buying these
16 lots, you know, ten cents on the dollar of what he
17 lost them for? Just wondering what kind of things
18 are going on there.
19 But we got that one sheet of paper
08:24PM 20 and that was it for notification. You know, I
21 must have missed the notice that was in the paper.
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23 that I guess certified documents weren't
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1 wondering if you're going to be taking a vote
2 tonight on this, which I know you are scheduled
3 to, how many of the Aldermen and Alderwomen really
4 understand what was in the original agreement and
08:24PM 5 what the amendments are going to affect.
6 I mean, that's a pretty thick
7 document and I know you guys have other jobs and
8 you have busy schedules. Have you really looked
9 at it beyond just face value, a few pages?
08:25PM 10 You know, a lot of people have been
11 bringing up some good points and, you know, I
12 would propose that the -- that the Council
13 postpone the vote until the next -- until the next
14 meeting and give a little more breathing time for
08:25PM 15 the residents to become more reassured about
16 what's going to go on in the development and maybe
17 make sure that everybody has a better
18 understanding. So that's all I have.
19 MAYOR BURD: Just to clarify one more
08:25PM 20 time, though, when we do these developments, we
21 always like to have a backup SSA. That's standard
22 operating procedure. It doesn't mean that we're
23 going to put it into action, but we always want to
24 have it there just as a safety net.
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1 We actually prefer I think as a City
2 Council to have a homeowner's association handle
3 it because the City does not really want to do
4 that, and we ended up doing it in Sunflower
08:26PM 5 Estates because the homeowner's association voted
6 themselves out of business.
7 They said, We don't want to do this.
8 They came in to the City and asked us to take it
9 over. That wasn't the City going to them saying,
08:26PM 10 Hey, we want to do this. That was the homeowner's
11 association coming to us.
12 So we much prefer the homeowner's
13 associations being instituted and that you do your
14 own maintenance.
08:26PM 15 Our only recent concern is about
16 these ponds because one of the things when they
17 came in to talk to us about taking over this
18 development, I made it very clear to them that
19 these ponds have to be maintained and brought up
08:26PM 20 to the City's standards,'that this is something
21 that's important that we want for stormwater and
22 to make sure that the water is, you know,
23 clarified as it goes into Blackberry Creek, and
24 they understood that that was an important thing.
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1 And then because of the plantings
2 that are put around.some of these ponds, we want
3 to make sure that people don't go in there and mow
4 them because of special plantings.
08:27PM 5 And we've found that that's been a
6 problem in a lot of areas where people think, oh,
7 that's a weed, I'm going to cut it down after it's
8 been put in place. So we really are trying to
9 maintain a lot of these standards.
08:27PM . 10 I just want you to be aware that if
11 you want -- I think the whole City Council would
12 agree, if you want to institute a homeowner's
13 association, I think we would be very happy with
14 that decision.
08:27PM 15 We don't -- you know, we do not want
16 to take this over and have a tax on you. I think,
17 you know, you know what you want there and I think
18 you know how you want it to be maintained and it's
19 yours, so I think that if you want to do that, I
08:27PM 20 think that's a great thing.
21 So does anybody else want to make
22 any other comments about this? Do you wish to
23 speak again, Mr. Johnson?
24 MR. M. JOHNSON: Yes.
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1 MAYOR BURD: All right.
2 MR. M. JOHNSON: Is everybody done?
3 MAYOR BURD: Is everybody else done?
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08:28PM 5 MR. M. JOHNSON: Okay. Again, I'm Mark
6 Johnson from Yorkville, 204 Georgeanna, and first
7 I guess I'd like to say thanks to Dan for
8 clarifying a few things that maybe I didn't have
9 completely accurate, but I think the gist of what
08:28PM 10 I said is accurate.
11 My point to the City Council is
12 transparency and public hearings, the people
13 should get information so they can make decisions,
14 not come to a meeting and listen to a lawyer talk
08:28PM 15 for two minutes and say, You see the packet, you
16 guys have it, vote on it. I just don't think
17 that's right.
18 And I think that may be what the
19 rules are today, but I think this City Council
08:29PM 20 needs to look at those rules for public hearings
21 and have a website or have something where people
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23 available to them.
24 I've got a few questions -- Oh, and
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1 maybe to start with, I apologize, Dan, if this
2 wasn't your words, but in a memo from Bart Olson,
3 City Administrator, dated April 30th, Subject,
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4 Blackberry Woods amendment to PUD agreement -- I
08:29PM 5 won't read the whole thing, I'm just going to read
6 the one sentence -- The developer is requesting a
7 partial acceptance policy similar to what was
8 completed within the Windett Ridge subdivision.
9 So it sounds like maybe you guys did say that you
08:26PM 10 wanted something like Windett Ridge.
11 I guess some of the questions I
12 have, is the developer asking for lesser fees from
13 this Council, and are they asking for a
14 pay -as- you -go -type program like Windett Ridge was?
08:27PM 15 I'd like to hear the answer to that.
16 Another question,_or another thing
17 that came up is I'm looking at -- again, this
18 documentation, trying to track it down was not
19 easy for people outside the Council, but there is
08:27PM 20 a very nice area in this subdivision that's
21 actually parallel to Cody Court.
22 It's like a little ravine and a
23 wooded area that actually the land mass goes all
24 the way down to Blackberry Creek where there is a
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1 plan for a bicycle path, whatever you want to call
2 it, to cross the Blackberry Creek at that point,
3 probably about from here straight across. This is
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4 all wooded, or a lot of it is wooded. Some of it
08:28PM 5 is the lots, as you can see.
6 The paperwork I see says this is a
7 park site. On all the documentation that I have
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8 seen that you guys got, there is no mention of a
9 park site here. The original documents say park
08 :28PM 10 site.
11 To go along with that, the original
12 documentation, the way I read it, said that they
13 were to give X amount of acres, eight or something
14 acres of park site, and they shall give $150,000
08:28PM 15 in cash.
16 I guess the question is did the City
17 get that money or, if they didn't, from Mr. McCue,
18 are they going to get it from the next guy?
19 Another question that -- this is
08:29PM 20 some specifics I didn't get into, but since we are
21 getting into some of those, there is a statement
is 22 in here talking about selling of lots by Crestview
23 to other builders or to residents, and there is
24 something in there that says that they want to be
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1 reimbursed 110 percent of the cost of sidewalks
2 and parkway trees, so they can get their money
3 back when they sell the lot and -- instead of
4 having to wait, which then puts the onus on the
08:29PM 5 City Council or the City to make sure the sidewalk
6 gets put in when the guy builds and the trees get
7 planted or whatever is in the parkway, rather than
8 the developer, and I'm not sure I like that idea,
9 but that's not for my call.
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08:30PM 10 There is another point in here that
11 talks about a $2,000 I believe per lot
12 transportation something fee, and in place of
13 that, they want to pave from John Street to the
14 entry of the subdivision, which is one block,
08:30PM 15 maybe an extra 80 feet or something.
16 If you drove out there, you'd see
17 that roadway is ten times better than what we
18 drove in on today out here. It doesn't need to be
19 paved.
08:30PM 20 But if it's $2,000 a lot times the
21 unsold lots of, let's say, 120 lots, I think there
22 is 135, that's a quarter of a million dollars
23 you're going to give up to these guys and they're
24 going to replace it with I think $75,000 of
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1 resurfacing that roadway? And I bet it's not
2 going to cost them 75,000.
3 Again, I'm back to that thing, by
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4 agreeing with these guys, you're giving up money
08:31PM 5 that sooner or later the taxpayers that are
6 sitting here are going to have to make up for.
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7 Somebody is -going to have to make up for that.
8 And I guess the big thing, I guess I
9 want to hear somebody address this park site. I
08:31PM 10 want to know what that one is.
11 MAYOR BURD: Okay. For the
12 transportation, that is the one item that we
13 negotiated and the Staff requested them to fix
14 that street because they felt that yes, it does
08:31PM 15 need help, and especially with construction
16 traffic coming in and out.
17 The reason that they looked at this
18 as something we could give up is because that
19 money has to be used for streets that are around
08:32PM 20 the subdivision. It cannot be used for, say, Game
21 Farm Road. You can't take that money and use it
22 for other funding, they have to be around that
23 subdivision, and we just had a major improvement
24 to Route 34 there, so that could -- you know, we
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1 don't need it there right now, but we do the Staff
2 felt, need to have that road fixed coming into the
3 subdivision, which would be the one thing that the
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08:32PM 5 MR. M. JOHNSON: Am I accurate in the
6 75,000 versus -- you could argue --
7 MAYOR BURD: Yes.
8 MR. M. JOHNSON: -- the point, but about
9 a quarter of a million?
08:32PM 10 MAYOR BURD: You are very correct --
11 MR. M. JOHNSON: Okay.
12 MAYOR BURD: -- but we don't have
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14 adjacent to it, unless we --
08:32PM 15 The County owns Beecher Road I
16 believe, don't they? Is that on Beecher?
17 MR. OLSON: Most of that jurisdiction is
18 ours for Beecher Road and Cannonball Trail.
19 MAYOR BURD: And so that might be a
08:32PM 20 possibility.
21 MR. OLSON: Yeah.
22 MAYOR BURD: But this is one -- the one
23 thing that yes, we did.negotiate with them about,
24 and it was something that was added -- I don't
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1 know, what year was it added? It as a fairly --
2 MR. OLSON: Two years ago, three years
3 ago.
4 MAYOR BURD: Yeah. It was a fairly new
08:33PM 5 impact fee and it hadn't been there before, so it
6 was something that we felt we could negotiate with
7 at this time. But you are correct. You are
8 correct.
9 Would you like to address the other
08:33PM 10 things?
11 MR. OLSON: And I misstated, I thought
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14 The impact fee has been in place I believe now for
08:33PM 15 five years.
16 MAYOR BURD: Five years? Okay.
17 MR. OLSON: But sure. One, on weed
18 control -- we hadn't touched on this yet -- but
19 there are property maintenance codes in the city.
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22 actually sitting at the end of the table.
23 He will report -- he would go out
24 and stake the property for violation within
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1 two days, and then the property owner has
2 five days from that initial staking to mow the
3 lawn, so, you know, there are codes.
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08:34PM 5 yourselves if you think you can get remedies, but
6 the best way is to ask the City. Second --
7 MAYOR BURD: And then if they don't do
8 it, we go and mow it.
9 MR. OLSON: We do, and then --
10 MAYOR BURD: And then we send them the
11 bill.
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13 send them the bill.
14 So regarding the language
08:34PM 15 representing Windett Ridge and partial acceptance,
16 that was my language, not the petitioner's. The
17 petitioner had requested something that was
18 similar to what we did in Windett Ridge, in that
19 we accepted a partial improvement in a final plat
08:34PM 20 unit as our responsibility without the rest of the
21 infrastructure in the unit being completed.
22 Typically our policies say final
23 plat, it's a hundred units, you have to complete
24 sewer, water, parkway trees, sidewalks, stormwater
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1 detention and all those other public improvements,
2 and they have to be done to our satisfaction
3 before the City says we accept those, we'll take
4 maintenance from them from here on out, and, you
08:34PM 5 know, that's done at our cost and at our manpower.
6 So what we did in Windett Ridge is
7 we accepted infrastructure from back of curb to
8 back of curb, so it was the roadways and any of
9 the stormwater and sewer utilities that were
08:35PM 10 located underneath the roadway as our maintenance
11 responsibility, without accepting any of the
12 sidewalks, the parkway trees or any of the sewer
13 and water construction that's located outside of
14 the back of curb.
08:35PM 15 So what they were asking for was
16 similar to that, so I used that language so that
17 the Council would be aware that it was a similar
18 situation to that, is what they were asking for.
19 Regarding the park site, the
08:35PM 20 obligation for the park site would remain from the
21 original agreement to this amendment, so they
_ 22 would still be required to,deed the park site
23 over, along with the land cash associated with
24 that park site, which we have not received yet.
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1 The letter of credit for sidewalk
2 and parkway trees, the property owner isn't going
3 to reimbursing the developer for any of that. The
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08:36PM 5 a parkway tree is included as the public
6 improvement within the development, so the
7 developer has to post a letter of credit for all
8 the sidewalks in front of the houses in the
9 subdivision, same with the parkway trees.
08:36PM 10 They're asking for that obligation
11 to be removed, and then in turn they are asking us
12 to ask for a letter of credit for each parkway
13 tree and sidewalk that's adjacent to a building.
14 So they sell a lot to a residential
08:36PM 15 builder, the builder comes in and pulls a building
16 permit. In addition to getting a building permit,
17 they have to post a letter of credit for their lot
18 only that will cover the cost of improving
19 sidewalks and parkway trees adjacent to their
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21 So if you are an internal lot and
22 you only have one public frontage on a road, it's
23 $5,000. If you are on a corner lot, so you would
24 have two sidewalks and multiple parkway trees, it
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1 would be $7,000.
2 So the developer has requested that
3 we remove that as their obligation for posting a
4 letter of credit and put that on the builder, and
08:37PM 5 we felt that that was acceptable. It's a little
6 bit more of an administrative burden to Staff
7 because we have to track more letters of credit,
8 but it does reduce their need to post a letter of
9 credit in a greater amount, but we still have that
j 08:37PM 10 security, just from a different entity.
11 MAYOR BURD: And I think we need to add
12 the same situation in Windett Ridge, the reason
13 this was done, as you all know, building has
14 slowed way down, and if we waited until every lot
08:37PM 15 was sold and all the houses were built to put in
16 the sidewalks and the trees and to make them pave
17 the streets, people would be dealing with these
18 issues with substandard streets or some of these
19 other things not being completed up to City
08:37PM 20 standards for quite a while, so we thought let's
21 get some of these things completed and approved at
22 our standards and then.go back and make -- you
23 know, later on they'll have to put in these other
24 things.
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1 So that's why. We were hoping to
2 get the streets completed, get the other issues
3 done, and then where the houses are not being
4 built, when you have a vacant lot and you don't
08:38PM 5 have a house there, not requiring them to put in a
6 sidewalk that eventually would be run over by
7 construction traffic and be all ruined because
8 then the whole thing would have to be dug up and
9 done all over again. So it was both -- not just
08:38PM 10 for the developer, but also for the City to try to
11 get some of these things completed earlier.
12 So does anybody else have any other
13 questions or want to -- Yes, sir.
14 MR. WEST: My name is Ryan West. I live
08:38PM 15 at 893 North Carly Circle. My first question is
16 for Mr. Kramer about the upgraded covenants.
17 Could we have some specifics on the upgraded
18 covenants?
19 For me the biggest concern has been
08:39PM 20 filing of the covenants, as well as the SSA, so
21 what will be the upgraded covenants and will they
22 be filed immediately? And again, I know that's
23 been hashed over already, but it's very important.
24 Secondly s this the developer will
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1 take over immediately with the detention ponds and
2 the common areas. Will the developer, if needed,
3 take over for, let's say, four years, six months,
4 then we, as a neighborhood, could develop a
08 :39PM 5 homeowner's association with more people and then
6 take over for ourselves?
7 And then finally, discussing the
8 Sunflower SSA, you said that they didn't want to
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08:39PM 10 want to do it any longer. How many lots are in
11 Sunflower and what do they currently pay with
12 their SSA? Thanks.
13 MAYOR BURD: Mr. Kramer, do you want to
14 answer the questions?
08:40PM 15 MR. KRAMER: Again, Dan Kramer, since
16 Gary isn't here and doesn't know who is talking.
17 With regard to the covenants, I
18 think probably the easiest thing to do there is
19 that the developer is certainly willing to sit
08:40PM 20 down with the neighbors and go through what their
21 views are, the covenants and what they would like
22 to change, and I think that's probably more
23 appropriate than spending time at a public
24 hearing, and I've talked to the developer and he
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1 is definitely willing to do that.
2 I believe the second question
3 Mr. West had about, you know, the developer taking
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6 form the association and get it active, that's an
7 absolute. They are more than willing to do that.
8 The petitioner has no objection to that at all.
9 The earliest the petitioner would
08:41PM 10 take over, again, would be 30 to 45 days after an
11 amendment were approved. There would be a closing
12 with Castle. Until that happens, the developer
13 doesn't have standing to go in and start changing
14 things, but that would be their intent, and, of
08:41PM 15 course, we would be happy to meet with the owners
16 in that respect right away, so...
17 MAYOR BURD: You know how many -- about
18 120 you said?
19 MR. OLSON: About 120 lots, and I
08:41PM 20 believe the last levy would be $175.
21 MR. KRAMER: Yeah, I don't have any
22 knowledge on Sunset -- or Sunflower Estates.
23 MAYOR BURD: That would be for Sunflower
24 Estates.
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1 MR. KRAMER: Thank you.
2 MAYOR BURD:' Is there anyone else who
3 has any comments or questions that they would like
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08:41PM 5 MR. M. JOHNSON: Just a question. Has
6 anybody addressed that 150,000 fee? I know you've
7 said you didn't collect it, right? But I
8 thought --
9 MAYOR BURD: Is that land cash?
08:41PM 10 MR. M. JOHNSON: -- is that still
11 payable or is that lost to the City forever?
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12 MAYOR BURD: That's land cash money.
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14 and parks, and I'm not sure if it's the park
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08:42PM 15 component, but again, the developer is asking for
16 no other relief from fees. I know I've said it a
17 few times and I'll risk repeating.
18 The only fee that's being modified
19 is the transportation fee, and they're actually
08:42PM 20 pre - paying that 150 a lot in return for a lock -in
21 until 2018, so they're are not asking for any
22 other discounts or any other giveaways. Thank
23 you.
24 MAYOR BURD: There you go, land cash
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1 money. Do we have any other comments?
2 (No response.)
3 MAYOR BURD: Well, thank you very much
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4 for all taking the time to be here tonight, and
08:42PM 5 I'd like to ask in the future when we have an
6 amendment to an agreement that we give out the
7 whole agreement, not just the amendment. Is that
8 okay? Can we -- Because people need to have the
9 context in which the amendments are being made.
08:43PM 10 MR. OLSON : Oh, sure. When they come
11 into the City Hall, we can provide them with --
12 MAYOR BURD: Right, when they ask for
13 this document, and also to put it up on the
14 website, the whole thing, plus the amendments,
08:43PM 15 because just to hand them a sheet of amendments,
16 they don't know how it all fits together, that's
17 very hard to understand I think.
18 MR. OLSON: The packet material on the
_ 19 City Council's packet on the City's website does
08:43PM 20 include the amendment and the original agreements,
21 so that material was all made available to the
22 Council, and should be available on the City
23 website.
24 MAYOR BURD: But also when they come
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4 them as a packet.
08:43PM 5 MR. OLSON: Yes. Agreed.
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7 to go out of public hearing.
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3 I, Christine M. Vitosh, a Certified
4 Shorthand Reporter, do hereby certify that I
5 reported in shorthand the proceedings had at the
6 hearing of the above - entitled cause and that the
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8 89, inclusive, is a true, correct, and complete
9 transcript of my shorthand notes so taken at the
10 time and place aforesaid.
11 I further certify that I am neither
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15 any way interested in the outcome thereof.
16 I further certify that my
17 certificate annexed hereto applies to the original
18 transcript and copies thereof, signed and
19 certified under my hand only. I assume no
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18 [1] - 52:2 accepted [3] - 55:22, 76:14, 86:20
18th [2] - 3:11, 16:8, 78:19, 79:7 80:13, 80:19 ahead [3] -
$1400 [1] - 58:17 16 :7 ' 5 (1] - 29:10 accepting [1] - administrative 11:22, 37:22,
$150 [2] - 60:24, 19 [3] - 23:10, 50 [1] - 61:2 79:11 [1] - 81:6 40:11
62:4 23:18, 24:23 50 -lot [1] - 5:10 access [1] - Administrator alarming [1] -
$150,000 [1] - 5400 [1] - 61:5 11:20 (41 2:14, 50:12, 10:15
73:14 2 accesses [1] - 58:22, 72:3 Alderman [6] -
$175 [1] - 84:20 6 45:20 ads [1] - 33:13 2:3, 2:4, 2:7, 2:8,
$181 [1] - 65:7 accessory pi - advance [1] - 2:11, 41:16
$2,000 [z] - 20141- 25:19, 23:23 62:13 ALDERMAN [2]
74:11, 74:20 33:7, 43:22, 52:3 6 [1] - 29:10
2003 [1] - 19:16 60 [3] - 3:13, accounted [1] - advantage [1] - - 48:4, 56:16
$3,700 [1] - 59:21 9:3 Aldermen [3] -
61:22 2004 [1] - 19:17 16:3,38:23 accuracy (1] - aesthetic [1] - 3:18,3:24,68:3
$30,000 [2] - 2005 [3] - 3:9, 61 [1] - 59:15 88:20 34 :13 aldermen [1] -
39:15, 52:3 19:18 6A [3] - 26:17, accurate [3] - affect [2] - 57:8, 65:2
$4,000 [1] - 61:1 2007 [4] - 3:11, 52:18, 57:1 71:9, 71:10, 76:5 68:5 Alderwoman [3]
$400 [a] - 51:18, 16:7, 25:22, 6B [4] - 26:18,
25:24 52:18 57:1 57:5 accused [1] - affected [a] - - 2:5, 2:6, 2:9
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51:20, 52:7 56:19 14:1, 24:16, 60:8, Alderwomen [1]
$5,000 [1] - 2010 [5] - 1:14, acquired [1] - 61:9 - 68:3
80:23 13:10, 27:16, 7 37:2 affecting [1] - allegedly [1] -
$5,509 [1] - 61:3 28:2, 89:3 acquires [1] - 34:4 32:10
$50,000 [1] - 2012 [1] - 38:20 71 [1] - 19:14 22:24 affordable [1] - Allegiance [1] -
33:5 2018 [3] - 5:20,
38:6, 85:21 75,000 [21- 75:2, acres [a] - 3:13, 41:7 3:1
$500,000 [1] - 76 : 6 30:18, 73:13, aforesaid [1] - allow [z] - 10:12,
41:3 204[1] - 71:6 73:14 88:10 45:12
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$7,000 [1] - 81:1 acronym [1] - afterwards [2] - alludes [1] -
$75,000 [1] - 21 st [1] - 25:22 8 64:15 53:13, 53:15 49:23
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28th [1] - 26:10 66:23, 68:23 agendas [1] - 43:23, 44:13,
0 29B [1] - 22:16 80 [1] - 74:15 activate [2] - 63:11 47:7
2nd [1] - 89:2 800 [1] - 1:15 8:6, 58:3 ago [9] - 5:7, alone [1] - 17:5
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3 [3] - 51:20, 893 [1] - 82:15 57:18, 58:19, agree [2] - 4:20, 6:8, 24:16,
52:6, 52:7 84:6 57:11, 70:12 28:1, 28:7
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1121- 29:16, 36:13, 84:10 9:12, 42:18 18:6, 23:2, 32:13, 48:13
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110 [1] - 74:1 300 [1] :51:18 ad [1) - 32:19 agreeing [1] - 9:8, 16:8, 16:12,
ability [3] - add [1] - 81:11 75:4 24:23, 26:5,
1166 [1] - 21:22 30th [2] - 27:16, 19:20, 61:15,
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18:10, 29:8, 31 [1] - 38:6 able [9] - 4:5, 76:24, 77:1 4:21, 6:9, 8:17, 31:13, 34:6, 35:1,
30:15 34 [1] - 75:24 5:15, 11:7,11:11, addition [1] - 13:8, 14:2, 22:17, 36:11, 38:2,48:8,
12,000- square 22:3, 33:8, 37:3, 80:16 23:8, 23:20, 48:11, 53:16,
[1] - 40:18 4 53:5, 64:22 additional [2] - 24:21, 25:19, 72:4, 79:21,
120 [3] - 74:21, above - entitled 11:7,12:1 26:3, 27:7, 28:13, 84:11, 86:6, 86:7,
84:18, 84 [21 1:13, additions [1] - 31:5, 31:15, 86:20
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150 [1] - 85:20 62:19
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amounts [1] - 31:12 84:6 32:5, 32:15, biggest [t] - 12:8,15:17
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31:5, 31:15, 45:7, 45:12, 22:22 7:7, 36:20 37:6, 40:18, budget [1] -
33:17, 34:8, 47:12, 50:7, assumption [2] - basin [1] - 65:13 46:19, 62:14 10:11
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37:19, 41:13, 16:4,16:5, 30:12, 34:10 became [1] - bit [11] - 5:4, 9:5, 14:12, 15:17,
57:10, 59:17, 33:23, 33:24, Attorney [3] - 57:18 5:24, 10:6,14:5, 23:4, 41:4, 42:23,
62:8, 63:2, 72:15, 46:24, 50:16, 3:19, 16:15, become [2] - 32:6, 45:3, 47:13, 43:4, 55:16,
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63:8, 64:12 64:23, 65:8, 70:6, attractive [1] - 17:23 10:16,11:10, builders [7] -
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56:12 argue [2] - 12:5, available [6] - 10:2, 20:4, 20:14, 21:23, 25:16, 23:13, 25:3, 32:2,
anticipated [1] - 76:6 11:6, 11:22, 12:3, 76:15, 76:16, 26:8, 26:21, 27:2, 73:23
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25:10 6:21 10:22, 25:4, begun [1] - 21:12 31:16, 32:3,
appeared [1] - assessment [3] 70:10, 79:17 19:16 blue [2] - 7:13, 32:11, 32:15,
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application [2] - 48:23 47:16 berms [t] - 56:5 blunt [1] 54:12 42:20, 49:22,
3:6, 28:1 assessments best [4] - 56:17, bond [2] - 33:6, 58:13, 64:1
applies [1] - [3] - 8:8, 30:4, B 66:3, 66:20, 78:6 33:15 Building [1] -
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26:22, 33:19, 64:24, 65:1, 25:17 60:8
appreciated [1] - - 6:4, 8:4, 8:6, 55:16, 60:23,
41:19 24:6, 25:13, 34:6, 50:3, 50:15, 68:17, 74:17 bound [3] - 77:21, 80:13,
approached [1] 26:12, 26:15, 51:13, 52:19, bettering [1] - 31:14, 32:13, 80:15, 80:16,
_ 4 29:24, 30:5, 52:20, 55:23, 36:1 37:14 81:13
appropriate [2] - 33:21, 34:2, 56:24, 57:3, 57:5, between [6] - brags [2] - builds [1] - 74:6
7:20, 83:23 44:23, 46:17, 57:8, 57:22, built [9] - 6:7,
68:21 13:19, 29:11, 11:17, 19:13
approval [3] - 50:24, 51:12, 33:4, 58:8, 62:20, brain [1] - 67:8 18:10, 19:17,
25:21, 25:22, 51:15, 52:6, bad [4] - 4:4, 62:24 break [1] - 54:3 19:18, 42:10,
53:7 54:10, 57:8, 14:19, 29:15, beware [1] - breather (1] - 55:18, 63:19,
approve [1] - 57:16, 57:17, 2919 15:9 17:7 81:15, 82:4
28:13 57:21, 58:2, ball [1] - 4:24 Bullies [1] - 17:3
Bank, beyond [2] - breathing [1] -
approved [9] - 58:15, 58:19, [ s ] - 4:7 53:5, 68:9 68:14 BURD [52] - 2:2,
5:9, 9:1, 9:8, 59:7, 59:20, 4:10, 9:10, 28:4, bicycle [1] - 73:1 bring [2] - 12:12, 3:2, 9:15, 21:19,
25:23, 26:2, 35:1, 64:15, 64:17, 28:5, 31:11, big (e] - 16:16, 27:20 30:21, 37:22,
36:11, 81:21, 65:4, 65:24, 69:2, 34:23, 35:5, 29:13, 39:13, bringing [1] - 41:14, 43:12,
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43:15, 48:3, 48:6, Carly (2] - 64:8, charter [1] - 32:20, 35:2, coats (1] - 36:20 completely [1] -
49:2, 49:11, 82:15 35:12 37:24, 38:16, Code [1] - 38:5 71:9
49:17, 50:3, carpenters [1) - cheap [1] - 41:8 40:15, 44:7, code [2] - 14:10, compliance (1] -
50:11, 53:17, 64:3 cheaper [1]- 46:22, 46:23, 38:5 27:17
53:20, 54:15, carry [1] - 4:5 33:8 48:14, 48:15, codes [6] - 15:5, component [1] -
54:23, 55:6, 55:8, case [3] - 5:17, checked [1 ] - 50:11, 52:8, 54:9, 38:1, 38:2, 38:3, 85:15
56:11, 59:13, 11:13, 28:16 30:2 55:11, 55:19, 77:19, 78:3 components [1]
61:11, 64:5, cash [7] - 41:4, Chicago 111 - 57:21, 58:22, Cody [2] - 21:22, - 16:16
68:19, 71:1, 71:3, 73 :15, 79:23, 17:19 60:22, 62:15, 72 :21 con [1] - 19:2
75:11, 76:7, 85:9, 85:12, chipping 11] - 64:24, 65:4, 65:7, coins [1] - 16:1 concern [11] -
76:10, 76:12, 85:13, 85:24 46:3 66:2, 67:1, 69:1, collect - 85:7 23:18,25:12,
76:19, 76:22, Castle [12] -'4:7, choose [1] - 69:3, 69:8, 69:9, coming [13] - 31:19,36:17,
77:4, 77:16, 78:7, 4:10, 9:2, 9:9, 57:20 70:11, 71:11, 12:11, 15:10, 52:13, 56:8,
78:10,81:11, 28:3, 28:5,31:11, CHRISTINE[1]- 71:19,72:3, 16:22,19:1, 32:2, 57:24, 64:13,
83:13,84:17, 34:23, 35:5, 1:14 73:16, 74:5, 78:6, 35 :18, 42:6, 50:8, 66:18, 69:15,
84:23, 85:2, 85:9, 35:11, 36:2, Christine [21- 79:3, 81:19, 52:3, 66:5, 69:11, 82:19
85:12, 85:24, 84:12 88:3, 89:6 82:10, 85:11, 75:16, 76:2 concerned [4] -
86:3, 86:12, catch (1] - 17:7 Circle [1] - 82:15 86:11, 86:19, comment [4] - 28:19, 54:6, 54:8,
86:24, 87:3, 87:6 cattails [1] - circle [1] - 17:18 86:22 10:15,12:21, 65:16
Burd (1] -16:8 7 :19 cities [1] -19:9 City's [6] - 11:5, 41:12, 63:21 concerning [2] -
burden (1] - 81:6 caution [2] - citizen's [1] - 1,2:16,18:5, comments [s] - 10:17,11:21
business [4] - 46:14, 47:15 11:20 27:18, 69:20, 14:23, 64:6, concerns [9] -
15:21, 35:20, cave [1] - 16:18 citizenry [1] - 86:19 70:22, 85:3, 86:1 22:4, 22:5, 22:8,
60:12, 69:6 caved 11] - 16:14 16:1 claimed [1] - commercial 16] - 22:16, 43:18,
businesses [1] - CCR's [6] - 24:5, citizens (9] - 66:20 12:6, 12:7,14:22, 44:11, 45:10,
39:11 24:14,24:17, 6:16,16:21, clarified (1] - 20:7, 20:18, 43:7 54:11, 57:11
busy [1] - 68:8 24:24, 25:7 19:11, 21:4,21:6, 69:23 commitment (1] condition [1] -
butt 111 - 20:13 cease (1) - 19:5 21:11, 21:16, clarify pi - 55:8, - 25:7 28 :22
buy [3] - 22:10, cents [1] - 67:16 40:5, 59:18 56:22, 68:19 commitments conditions [3] -
29:20, 33:8 certain [3] - city [28] - 1:5, clarifying [1] - (2] - 16:20,18:20 23:21, 32:7, 36:5
buying [5] - 5:22,24:21, 10:9,10:10, 71:8 Committee [4] - confusing [1] -
18:23, 25:2, 38:14 11:17, 12:14, clean [5] -19:7, 5:6, 11:8, 13:16, 32:18
33:15,67:11, certainly [21- 15:6,15:21, 27:19,28:21, 38:12 connect[1]-
67:15 5:14, 83:19 15:24, 16:3, 2920, 36:14 common [14] - 42:13
buys (1] - 29:20 certificate [1] - 16:22, 16:24, cleaned [1] - 8:10,'30:12, connection [1] -
88:17 17:6, 18:9,19:6, 7:18 33:22, 33:23, 61:21
C certified (4] - 19:11, 20:23, cleaning [1] - 47:2, 50:6, 50:16, consider[1] -
62:12, 63:5, 21:3, 21:12, 28:23 51:4, 55:14, 60:17
67:23, 88:19 33:20, 34:2, 34:5, cleanup Ill - 55:22, 57:6, 57:7, considerable [1]
candid [1] - 1:14
candid [1] - Certified [1] - 35:21, 37:16, 9:13 65:7, 83:2 - 62:13
5 88 :3 38:8, 62:20, clear [3] - 51:7, community [6] - considering (1]
Can 57:2, 69:18
Cannonball [s] - certify (3] - 88:4, 63:20, 77:19, 14:13, 21:13, - 67:11
3:14, 45:19, 88:11, 88:16 87:1 cleared [1] - 36:4, 38:24, 39:7, consists [1] -
cetera [1] - 15:5 CITY [1] - 1:6 59:12 42:17 3:12
45:21, 56:2, City 6 Clerk 3 2: P ( ]
chain [1] - 24:10 ty [ 4] - 1:16, [ ] - 16, compared 1 - constituent (1]
57:13, 76:18 -
chance [2] - 2:14, 2:15, 2:16, 48:14, 48:15 14:21 54:22
cannot [1] - 2:22, 3:6, 4:2, close [6] - 9:9, complain [1] - construction [3]
75:20 64:16, 84:5 P
change [4] - 4:14, 4:19, 5:19, 35:3, 35:4, 35:8, 52 :9 - 75:15, 79:13,
cap [1] - 53:3 7:10, 8:9, 8:19, 42:14, 59:10 complaint [1] - 82:7
capable [1] - 10:8, 17:16, com P
18:16, 83:22 9:4, 10:12,10:14, closed [3] - 54:21 contained (1] -
45:6 10:21, 11:3, 11:6, complete :24, 30:6, 32:10 [5] - 50:17
capital (1] - changes p] - P
14:9,17:14, 31:7, 11:17, 12:5, 12:9, closer [1] - 8:16, 36:23, contains (1] -
35:23 31:12, 31:17, 12:12, 12:15, 36:20 44:10, 78:23, 50:18
capitalized [1] - 49:18, 60:15 13:9, 13:11, closes [1] - 88:8 contemplated
63:19 changing (1) - 13:20, 14:9, 31:10 completed [1o] - 12] - 51:6, 61:24
care [5] - 19:3, 84:13 14:23, 15:1, 15:3, closing [ - 8:19, 12:20, contemplation
43:12, 46:5, 46:7, charged [1] - 15:12,16:14, 36:12, 49:22, 16:17, 55:18, (1) - 52:19
66:1 54:10 16:19, 17:14, 66:17, 84:11 72:8, 78:21, context [1 ] -
careful [1] - charges [1] - 20:19, 29:7, coat (2] - 6:21, 81:19, 81:21, 86:9
44:14 54 :8 30:15, 31:11, 7:7 82:2, 82:11 continue 131 -
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52:12 12:23,13:20, 15:19, 18:2, ' 10:10 [31] - 8:12,10:9,
continuing [1] - 14:20,14:24, 53:17 demands [1] - 12:6, 12:7, 14:18,
25:10 16:19, 17:1, 18:1, created [2] - D- 908810 [1] - 47:18 15:6, 16:4, 16:5,
contract [6] - 20:6, 20:19, 34:6,51:13 1 :22 demonize [1] - 16:9, 16:17, 17:8,
4:10,12:19, 21:15, 32:20, creation [2] - dad's (1] - 64:10 35:18 19:21, 19:22,
12:20,12:24, 35:2, 68:12, 69:2, 50:14, 56:24 Dan [e] - 9:21, description [1] - 20:1, 20:9, 25:9,
28:3, 28:16 70:11, 71:11, credit [13] - 44:3,47:5,47:6, 53:9 33:22,35:14,
contractor [2) - 71:19, 72:13, 6:19, 6:23, 7:5, 50:1, 71:7, 72:1, detached [1 - 39:3, 39:8, 40:10,
37:8, 64:1 72:19, 74:5, 7:9, 19:10, 36:21, 83:15 66:11 40:13, 40:16,
contrary [1] - 79:17, 86:22 80:1, 80:7, 80:12, Daniel [1] - 3:19 detail [2] - 49:6, 65:8, 65:14, 66:6,
36:15 COUNCIL [1] - 80:17, 81:4, 81:7, date [2] - 60:20, 53 : 7 67:9, 67:14,
contributing (1] 1:5 81:9 61:14 detailed [3] - 68:16,69:18,
- 46:9 Council's [2] - Creek [8] - 16:7, dated [4] - 3:9, 7:11, 49:12, 80:6
control [5] - 15:2,86:19 19:15, 40:14, 3:11, 28:2, 72:3 49;13 Development
46:18, 46:19, councilmen [1] - 43:1, 43:2, 69:23, Dawn [4] - detention [10] - (1 - 3:8, 3:10,
66:19,77:18, 18:3 72:24, 73:2 21:21,43:17, 7:12, 8:11, 27:14, 4:21, 5:6,11:8,
88 :21 Councilmen (1] Crestview [41 48:21, 49:20 34:1, 50:16, 51:4, 13:16, 20:10,
conversely [1] - - 20:24 3:4, 3:21, 4:9, days (6] - 9:9 57:9, 57:18, 79:1, 20:16, 38:12,
7:1 counsel [2] - 4:13, 4:16, 6:6, 36:13,38:23, 83:1 41:22, 63:14
convinced [1]- 88:12 7:8,7:21, 8:23, 78:1, 78:2, 84:10 develop [7]- developments
47:8 County [6] - 3:7, 9:7, 14:15, 24:14, dead [t] - 6:17 4:12, 5:3, 5:11, (6] - 4:18,18:23,
coordinator [1 - 40:23, 41:2, 43:4, 26:5, 26:24, dead -end [1] - 24:2, 37:4, 83:4 19:14, 20:23,
62:17 43:23, 76:15 28:10, 28:20, 6:17 developed [7] - 33:18, 68:20
copies [2] - COUNTY [1] - 29:5,29:20, 31:5, deal [2] - 43:1, 4:2, 4:13, 4:15, deviousness (1]
88:18,88:21 88:2 31:10,32:3, 49:22 17:19,17:20, - 37:11
COPY [3] - 32:4, county [2] - 32:15,34:15, dealing 131 - 31:24,38:6 DIANE [1] - 2:9
48:17, 62:15 40:14, 62:20 35:6, 35:8, 35:15, 35:7,38:3. 81:17 developer [44] - DIDIER [2] -
corner [t] - couple [6] - 36:13,37:14, dealings [1] - 10:13,10:21, 21:21, 31:2
80:23 9:20, 26:4, 52:24, 39:23, 40:13, 47:14 12:11, 12:15, Didier(2]-
corporate [1]- 59:18, 62:23, 42:20, 49:21, deals [1]- 15:23 12:22,13:10, 21:21, 36:9
35:12 65:2 57:14, 57:24, debris [1] - 36:8 14:8, 14:12, 15:3, Did(er's [1] -
Corporation (1] courageous [2] 58:13,58:20, December [3] - 15:4.17:15, 30:24
- 41 :22 - 38:22, 39:19 59:10, 64:1, 3:11, 16:7, 38:6 17:17, 19:13, difference (4] -
correct [10] - course [5] - 4:1, 67:10, 67:12, decided [1] - 21:17, 21:18, 14:6, 58:7, 61:4,
34:22,48:11, 5:16,59:11, 73:22 22:10 22:21, 32:24, 61:6
50:22, 53:19, 63:17, 84:15 Crestview's [3] - decision (3] - 33:9, 34:20, 35:3, different (3] -
55:11, 55:12, Court [3] - 22:12, 27:10, 60:7, 66:3, 70:14 35:11, 36:3,40:9, 44:11, 63:1,
76:10, 77:7, 77:8, 21:22, 64:9, 28:1 decisions [1] - 57:14,58:1. 58:6, 81:10
gg;g 72 :21 Crestwood [1] - 71:13 59:4,62:5, 63:19, dig [1] - 22:3
corrected [1] - covenants (23] - 67:10 dedicated [1] - 65:12, 72:6, digging [1] -
25:23 23:10, 23:15, cross [1] - 73:2 20 :21 72:12, 74:8, 80:3, 11:6
correctly [1) - 23:19,23:21, crystal [1] - 4:24 dedication (1) - 80:7,81:2. 82:10, diligently (1] -
52:23 24:22, 31:20, CSR (2] - 89:6, '37:15 82:24, 83:2, 41:24
corridor [2] - 32:4, 32:5, 32:9, 89:7 deed [1] - 79:22 83:19, 83:24, dire [1] - 67:13
10:4, 20:4 32:13,32:15, curb [3] - 79:7, deeded (1] - 84:3, 84:12, direction [4] -
cost [9] - 33:1, 40:9, 41:8, 66:8, 79:8, 79:14 8 : 18 85:15 13:17,13:22,
33:3,34:3, 51:16, 66:10, 66:14, current [6] - 8:7, deemed [1] - developer's [2] - 65:3, 88:21
51:18,74:1, 75:2, 66:15,82:16, 14:14,19:11, 22:22 12:2,19:24 directly [2] -
79:5, 80:18 82:18,82:20, 27:8, 37:4 deeply [1] - 11:7 developers [18] 12:16,14:1
costing (2] - 82 :21, 83:17, cut [11] - 10:13, defend (1] - - 13:3,15:10, director [1] -
15:11, 39:15 83:21 31:1, 39:18, 17:14 15:20,15:22, 41:21
costs [3] - 12:8, cover [2] - 44:22, 45:4, 46:4, define [1] - 16:18, 17:3, 18:3, dirt [1] - 9 :23
15:1, 40:3 50:15, 80:18 51:15, 51:18, 50:12 18:15, 18:19, dirty pi - 44:13
Cotswold [1] - covering (1] - 51:20, 52:10, definite [1] - 19:2, 19:5, 19:12, disagree (1] -
59:16 58:19 70 :7 32:16 21:1, 21:3, 21:10, 39 : 2
council [1] - cowering [1] - cuts [2] - 10:11, definitely [1] - 21:16, 47:14, disagreements
20:18 17:2 10:12 84:1 55:14 (1] - 13:18
Council [27] - cracks [1] - cutting [1] - 45:2 delivered [1] - developing [2] - discounts [1] -
5:19, 11:6, 11:15, 62:24 cycle [1] - 63:13 10:20 35:10, 36:7 85 :22
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discuss [1] - 39:5, 39:8 enabling [1] - Estates [3] - expressly [1] - 13:12, 38:21,
52:19 dozen [1] - 41:1 58:21 69:5, 84:22, 23:1 39:16, 39:18,
discussing [1] - draft [4] - 26:6, enacted [2] - 84:24 extended [2] - 40:2, 59:20,
83:7 26:10, 31:20, 25:20, 26:1 estimate [1] - 7:23, 61:19 60:22, 61:6, 61:9,
dishonor [1] - 44:15 enacting [1) - 53:3 extension [1] - 61:12, 61:16,
21:8 drafts [1] - 26:4 58:21 estimation [1] - 10:3 62:4, 72:12,
dissolved [1] - drainage [1] - enactment [1] - 56:7 extra [2] - 63:4, 85:16
51:10 7:18 52:22 et [1] - 15:5 74:15 feet [2] - 29:2,
distinguished drawing [2] - end [9] - 6:17, evening [2] - 74:15
[1] - 44:1 7:14, 9:21 9:22, 10:2, 20:1, 3:17, 51:24 F fell [1] - 5:16
distressed [1] - Drive [1] - 59:16 35:16, 45:16, eventually [3) - fellas [1] - 47:11
35:22 driven [1] - 39:4 46:17, 52:7, 29:2, 30:17, 82:6 felt [5] - 52:15,
District [3] - drop [1] - 19:6 77:22 example [2] - facade [1] - 75:14, 76:2, 77:6,
26:12, 26:13, drove [2] - ended [2] - 32:23, 42:16 23'22 81:5
26:15 74:16,74:18 47:17, 69:4 excellent [3] - face [1] - 68:9 fence [1] - 24:11
district [1 - DUBAJIC [1] - ends [4] - 15:11, 20:17, 42:15, fact [71 - 20:3, few p i ] - 14:18,
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40:20 41:20 17:18, 20:15, 42:22 26: 16:1, 31:6, 37:19,
divided [1] - 5:8 Dubajic [1] - 57:20 except [1] - 19:3 44: 29.23, 49:4, 49:7, 59:16,
document [14] - 41:20 engineering [2] excess [1] - 41:2 f [ 1- 12: 68:9, 71:8, 71:24,
11:4, 34:10, due [3] - 10:20, - 7:17, 34:12 exchange [2] - fair [3] 12:13, 85:17
44:18, 48:10, 12:18, 64:18 enjoy [1) - 48:2 37:10, 38:18 1 f a irl 54:20 figure [t] - 65:6
48:17, 49:3, 49:5, dues [1] - 44:23 enjoying [il - excuse [2] - fairly [3] - 30:24, file p] - 48:14
49:6, 49:9, 49:12, dug [1] - 82:8 46:22 13:23, 48:6 77:1, 77:4 filed [2] - 3:5,
49:13, 49:14, duplexes [1] -
enter [1] - 3:3 Excuse [2] - Falls [1] - 17:23 82:22
68:7, 86:13 6 :8 entered [1] - 14:11, 56:14 falls [1] - 60:2 filing [1] - 82:20
documentation duties [1] - 31:16 executed [1] - familiar [2] - final [1o] - 6:12,
[4] - 10:24, 72:18, 22 :21 enticements [1] 35:2 33:12, 56:1 12:19, 12:24,
73:7, 73:12 dwelling [1] - - 25:14 executing [1] - families [1] - 23:24, 25:21,
documents [ - 22:24 entire [3] - 35:8 21.12 26:2, 78:19,
11:20, 67:23, dying [1] - 39:11 18:11, 38:23, executive [1] - family [2] - 58:9, 78:22
73:9 65:13 41:21 61:22 finally [2] - 11:7,
dollar [4] - 53:2, E entitled [2] - Exhibit [1] - far [5] - 6:21, 83:7
53:11, 54:2, 1:13, 88:6 23:10 7:18, 8:10,11:17, finances [1] -
67:16 entitlement [1] - exhibit (1] - 43:7, 65:16 67:14
dollars [2] - earliest [1] - 39:16 34:11 Farm [2] - 1:15, fine [3] - 21:6,
51:16, 74:22 84:9 entitlements [2] exhibits [1] - 75.21 46:10, 58:20
donation [2] - easiest [1] - - 5:2, 5:20 44:17 fashion [3] - 5:4, finish [2] -
30:16, 37:12 83:18 entity [1] - 81:10 existing [5] - 36:24, 39:22 36:17, 36:19
done [17] - 5:8, east [i] - 6:18 entrance [1] - 15:5,16:21, 18:7, Fathers [a] - finished [1] -
6:6, 31:2, 36:4, eastern [1] - 7:6 65:19 18:10, 21:17, 46:23 42:12
38:7, 40:14, easy [1] - 72:19 entry [2] - 33:24, 37:24 feasible [3] - finishing [2] -
42:13, 46:20, Economic [5] - 74:14 expect [1] - 15:19, 16:9, 19:24, 35:24
52:24, 65:9, 71:2, 5:6, 11:8,13:16, entryway [3] - 10:11 16:13 first[151- 9:19,
71:3, 79:2, 79:5, 38:12, 41:21, 45:14, 45:17, expecting [1] - features [1] - 12:22,16:8,
81:13, 82:3, 82:9 63:14 50:5 65:24 8'10 16:12, 25:21,
door [1] - 36:9 economic [3] - equal [1] - 46:9 expedited [5] - federal [1] - 26:5, 26:6, 26:18,
dormant [9] 13:5,13:6, 44:4 especially [4] - 12:18, 12:22, 39.20 27:5, 28:7, 30:8,
25:20, 26:1, 27:5, economically 27 :4, 47:19, 13:14,19:22, fee [19] - 5:19, 44:7, 63:8, 71:6,
33:19, 34:7, [2] - 15:7,16:13 49:19, 75:15 63:10 38:15, 38:17, 82:15
34:18, 57:1, 57:5, economy [2] - establish [3] - expense [3] - 38:19, 39:24, fits [1] - 86:16
58:3 5:13, 42:5 29 :24, 50:23, 7:22, 34:17, 60:21, 60:23, Five [1] - 77:16
down [14] - effective [1) - 53:2 62:13 61:7, 61:17, five [1 o] - 12:4,
11:16, 14:21, - 35:4 established [3] - experience [2] - 61:18, 61:20, 13:8, 19:17,
15:22, 20:16, eight [3] - 29:8, 19:9, 26:8, 66:16 47:12, 58:14 61:22, 74:12, 34:17, 34:20,
25:3, 34:1, 36:9, 73:13, 77:20 establishing [1] experienced [1) 77:5, 77:14, 85:6, 40:18, 58:5,
52:17, 66:21, either [1] - 17:10 - 51:2 - 17 :8 85:18, 85:19 60:21, 77:15,
70:7, 72:18, electricians [1] - establishment expiration [1] - feedback [1] - 78:2
72:24, 81:14, 64:3 [1] - 24:6 61:16 41:18 five -year [5] -
83:20 empty [2] - estate [1] - explain [2] - fees [17] - 13:9, 13:8, 34:17,
13:11,
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fix [11- 75:13 66:11 12:12, 14:21, 83:24, 87:7, 6:15, 9:11, 10:17, 12:1, 63:23,
fixed [1] - 76:2 GARDNER (2] - 17:8, 17:10, 87:10, 88:6 19:17, 19:20, 69:21, 69:24,
flag [1] - 15:13 2:20, 49:10 17:11, 17:12, hearings [3] - 22:9, 22:13, 82:23
flat [11- 56:3 GARY [1] - 2:11 17:18, 44:5, 11:21, 71:12, 31:24, 40:17, impose (1] -
flip [11- 36:16 Gary [2] - 56:15, 52:11 71:20 40:21, 41:1, 41:3, 23:21
flower [1) - 46:5 83:16 guess [1 0] - heirs [t] - 31:9 41:6,42:9, 55:17 improved [1] -
folks [41- 3:23, generalized [1] - 23:3, 60:19, 64:9, help (41- 15:18, honor [1] - 32:5 22:23
32:19, 52:1, 54:1 54:19 65:19, 67:23, 30:12, 45:7, hope [31- 13:15, improvement
follow [41- generally [2] - 71:7,72:11, 75:15 29:19, 43:8 131- 75:23,78:19,
17:17,18:3, 6:14, 33:3 73:16,75:8 helps [1] - 19:10 hopefully [6] - 80:6
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56:3, 56:4 GEORGE [1] - guys [61- 68:7, 88:17 56:15,59:11 33:2, 33:4, 36:1,
force [11- 15:18 2:8 71:16, 72:9.73:8, hereunder [1] - hoping [1] - 82:1 50:12,57:14,
foregoing [1] - Georgeanna [1] 74:23, 75:4 22:21 horrendous [1] - 79:1
88:7 - 71:6 hereunto [1] - 11:1 improving [t] -
forever [11- GILSON (1] - 2:8 H 89:2 hot [1] - 19:7 80:18
85:11 GINOCCHIO [161 hi [1) - 9:18 hour[1] - 1:15 Inc [1] - 3:22
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form [3] - 48:13, 49:18, 50:4, higher [3] - 29:8, 42:10, 43:2, include (2) -
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himself [1] - 80:8,81:15,82:3 28:22
29:2, 60:15, 55:2 14:19 31:24 housing [2] - inclusive [1] -
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friends [1] - 13:5 85:22 happy holder [1] - 28:4 hurt [1] - 51:22 increased [2] -
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frontage [1] - glad [11- 66:7 55:21 indicated [41-
21:2, 66:2, 66:15, 34:11, 36:12,
harmonious [1] 74:8
80;22 GOLINSKI [2] - homeownerl31 86:17 idea [2] - 63:18,
frustrated [1] - 2:11, 56:16 - 11:10, 33:6, 39:9, 59:19
48:20 Golinski [1] - 57:16 individual [31-
- 25:9 ideas [1] - 16:22
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fund [1] - 36:3 46:4, 51:15, 56:15, 72:15, 57:21, 59:7, imagine [11- 12:2, 14:4, 22:3,
funded [1] - 8:4 51:18 75 :9 59:19, 64:15, 29:7 49:1, 60:1, 60:6,
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institute [i] - 70:24 L 54:13 40:2, 61:17, [15] - 6:2, 6:5,
70:12 Johnson [7] - level [2] - 46:20, 61:18, 62:4, 7:23, 34:17,
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69:13 40:12, 64:8, LA (�] - 88'2 levied (1] - 59:2 lock -in [1] - 57:6, 57:20, 58:5,
insurance [2] - 70:23, 71:6 lack (1] - 10:24 levy [6] - 8:13, 85:20 58:11, 59:6,
25:6, 60:13 Johnson's [2] - lady [i] - 66:7 53:5, 57:22, 59:1, longest [1] - 69:14, 77:19,
intent p] - 84:14 36:16, 37:20 laid p] - 45:23 59:8, 84:20 47:21 79:4, 79:10
intention (4] - JR p] - 2:8 land [8] - 35:21, levying Ili - look [5] - 17:23, major (e] - 22:4,
9:7, 9:10, 35:24, July (5) - 3:9, 64:20, 72:23, 34:3 17:24, 22:12, 22:7, 23:18,
66:14 13:9, 25:24, 41:2, 79:23, 85:9, licensed [1] - 62:16, 71:20 25:12, 31:19,
interest p] - 60:20 85:12, 85:13, 3:20 looked [2] - 75:23
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interested [1] - junk [2] - 28:23, landscape [3] - life [2] - 21:12, looking [5] - 79:5
88:15 29:12 7'12, 27'17, 42:11 36:5, 42:17, 45:7, Mark (5] - 9:18,
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39:17 76:17 language [9] - limit(i] - 57:4 looks (4] - 48:19, 71:5
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keep (5] - 17:14, 79:16
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57:11, 67:14, - 42:2, 42:3,
67:3 larger [2] - 49:5
interpreting(] - 37:1, 37:6, 37:9 67:17, 85:11 42:15
47:24 keeping (4] - last [io] - 11:5, line [5] - 6:15, loud [1] - 56:20 MARTY (1) - 2:4
31:4, 53:24, 17:9, 28:24,
invest [l] - 66:21 .38:13, 39:5, 41:1, 34:1, 41:16, 54:9, love [1] - 40:15 mass [1] - 72:23
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35:18, 35:19 40:22, 41:2, 42:1, law [t] - 3:20 list (2] - 62:14, luckily [1] - 22:1 materials [i] -
investors (2] - 62:15 lucky [i] - 17:6 2322
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18:22, 35:23 42:3, 42:15, 43:4, lawn [3] : 3 6:5, listen [2] - Lynn [2] - 41:14, matter [2] - 1:13,
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issues [3] - 47:2, 52:2, 65:8, 71:14 literally [i] - 59:1, 59:2
13:18, 81:18, 66:22, 66:23, lawyers l2] - 32:24 ma'am [�] -
mayor [2] - 39:9,
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16:24, 75:12 knowledge h] - 29:21 live [tt] - 3:23, mailbox [1] - 3:17, 3:24,16:8,
84:22 leave [3] - 17:5, 44:6
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known [3] - 19:7, 36:7 mailboxes [i] - MAYOR [5�] -
21:22, 27:12,
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57:12 legal [2] - 28:4, 43:20, 63:18, mailing [3] - 30:21, 37:22,
knows [i] - 53:8 82:14 10:19, 62:12, 41:14, 43:12,
JACQUELINE 29:13 lengthy [2] - lived [3] - 16:2, 63:5 43:15,48:3,48:6,
[1] - 2:16 KRAMER [ii] - 34:10, 36:10 30:8, 43:22 main [3] - 6:17, 49:2,49:11,
job (2] - 20:24, 3:17,30:23, 31:3, less (4] - 12:6, livelihood [1] -
10:4,57:13 49:17,50:3,
36:4 37:23,56:14, 12:13, 41:1, 65:9 43:23 maintain [131- 50:11, 53:17,
jobs [3] - 15:19, 56:18, 62:8, lesser h] - 6:10,28:21, 53:20, 54:15,
63:23, 68:7 83:15,84:21, 72:12 lives 12] - 21:11, 33:22, 36:15, 54:23, 55:6, 55:8,
JOE [1] - 2:3 85:1, 85:13 letter [13] - 6:19, 43 l ivivi 46:24, 51:3,51:4, 56:11, 59:13,
Kramer - 6:22, 7:4, 7:9, ng (4] - 54:2, 55:17, 64:22,
John [4] - 55:2, 55:3, 55:5, 66:4 61:11, 64:5,
57:10,58:10, 3:19,16:15, 36:21,, 38:23, loan [z] - 41:3, 65:7, 65:18, 70:9 68:19 71:1, 71:3,
74:13 27:14,28:5, 39:9.80:1, 80:7, 4lo maintained [e] - 75:11, 76:7,
JOHNSON (9] - 29:23, 30:21, 80:12,80:17, 6:18, 53:9, 55:11, 76:10, 76:12,
9:18,64:8, 71:2, 44:1, 50:22, 81:4.81:8 local [4] - 16:2, 37:8, 43:4, 64:4 57:16, 69:19, 76:19, 76:22,
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83:13, 84:17, million [2] - movie [1] - 29:21, 45:7, 50:9, 8:24, 28:12, 30:9,
84:23, 85:2, 85:9, 74:22, 76:9 17:22 N.A [t] - 34:23 56:2, 72:20 35:5, 42:14
85:12, 85:24, MILLIRON [4] - moving [1] - 9:6 name [7] - 3:18, night [1] - 38:13 occupation [11-
86:3, 86:12, 59:15, 61:4, 62:1, mow [5] - 29:3, 21:21, 48:5, nobody (1] - 23:1
86:24, 87:3, 87:6. 62:6 29:5, 70:3, 78:2, 54:24, 55:1, 64:7, 59:20 odd [1 ] - 51:16
McCue [231 - M[Iliron [1] - 78:8 82:14 non [21- 15:17, OF [4] - 1:6,
4:3, 4:5, 5:5, 6:1, 59:15 mowed [1] - named [1] - 64:1 1:12,88:1. 88:2
8:1,16:11, 23:21, M[Iliron's [1] - 64:23 19:15 non -union [2] - off -site [2] -
24:2, 25:14, 27:4, 62:8 mowing [4] - names [1] - 63:8 15:17, 64:1 38:17, 40:1
29:2, 29:23, MILSCHEWSKI 6:4,28:22,36:15, near [1] - 59:4 none [4] - 4:23, offers [21-
30:11, 31:16, [11- 2:16 51:5 nearly [1] - 24:3,24:8,44:16 60:12, 60:13
31:20, 32:4, mind [1] - 53:24 MR [69] - 2:3, 64:10 normal [51- officer [11-
32:10, 33:11, mini [1l - 40:19 2:7, 2:11, 2:14, necessarily [11- 17:9,17:10, 77:21
37:2, 58:13, minimal [1] - 2:20,3:17, 9:18, 51:7 17:13, 58:9, often [2) - 11:17,
66:20, 67:6, 64:23 30:20, 30:23, necessary [2] - 63:13 42:2
73:17 minutes [11- 31:3, 37:23, 52:15, 67:24 north [2] - 5:23, old [2] - 60:23,
McCue's (1].- 71:15 41:15, 43:14, need [17] - 5:11, 55:5 61:7
29:17 misconception 43:16, 48:12, 7:18, 7:20, 17:3, North [1] - 82:15 OLSON [25] -
mean [91- s [1] - 56:21 49:10, 49:15, 36:16,39:2,41:5, noses [11- 17:4 2:14, 30:20,
i 26:14, 26:22, Miss [1] - 30:24 49:18,50:4, 59:3, 64:23, not - for - profit [1] 41:15,50:14,
28:17,44:21, miss [1] - 58:1 50:14,51:14, 74:18, 75:15, - 8:3 52:4, 52:18,
47:20, 49:13, missed [1] - 52:4, 52:5, 52:18, 76:1, 76:2, 77:21, notes [2] - 31:4, 53:14,53:19,
54:11, 68:6, 67:21 53:11, 53:14, 81:8, 81:11, 86:8 88 55:12,56:5,61:3,
68:22 misstated [11- 53:19, 53:24, needed [2] - nothing [31- 61:15,62:5,
means [11- 24:3 77:11 54:16,55:1, 55:7, 12:5, 83:2 9:24,39:21, 76:17,76:21,
meantime [1] - modification [11 55:12,55:24, needs 131 - 50:8, 63:14 77:2,77:11,
59:6 - 38:16 56:5,56:6,56:14, 66:13,71:20 notice [e] - 22:1, 77:17, 78:9,
median [1] - modified [21- 56:18,59:15, neglected [1] - 44:5, 62:9, 62:10, 78:12,84:19,
50:19 31:8,85:18 61:3, 61:4, 61:15, 63:21 63:3, 67:21 86:10,86:18,
meet [21- 19:5, modify [11- 62:9 62:1, 62:5, 62:6, negotiate [21- noticed [11- 87:2, 87:5
84:15 moment[1] - 62:8, 64:8, 70:24, 76:23, 77:6 5824 Olson (3) -
MEETING [1] - 66:17 71:2, 76:5, 76:8, negotiated [11- notification 121 - 12:17,58:22,
1:5 money [201 - 76:11, 76:17, 75:13 10:23, 67:20 72:2
meeting [41- 12:7,14:13 77:2,77:11, neighborhood notifies Ill - once [21- 8:19,
1:12, 68:14, 15:12, 16:16, 77 78:9, [7] - 22:9, 24:19, 60:5 57:19
71:14, 87:11 18:22, 30:10, 78:12, 82:14, 36:1, 36:8, 40:8, notifying [1] - one [451- 5:16,
meetings [1] - 30:11, 30:13, 83 41:6, 83:4 59.24 5:20,8:1, 11:22,
63:12 33:10, 37:3, 84:21, 85:1, 85:5, neighbors [41- number [4]- 15:3, 16:5, 19:14,
members [2] - 59:22, 67:41 85 9:5,48:16,52:11, 31:7, 37:23, 19:18,21:24,
3:18,20:19 73:17, 74:2, 75:4, 86:10,86:18, 83:20 40:23, 45:18 22:7, 22:15,
memo (2) - 75:19,75:21. 87:2, 87:5 net [1] - 68:24 numbers [1] - 25:13, 25:23,
27:16, 72:2 76:4,85:12.86:1 MS [51- 2:2, 2:6, never [8] - 8:4, 65:23 27:5, 36:4, 37:23,
memorandum months [1] - 21:21, 31:2, 17:18,31:21, numerous [11- 41:15, 42:6,45:1,
Ill - 12:16 83.3 41:20 38:13,52:10, 66.22 45:18,51:15,
memories [11- monument [21- Multiple [1] - 53:5, 56:18 52:1, 52:21,
18:17 50:19, 57:9 40:24 new [9] - 12:2, O 52:22, 53:21,
mention [5] - morning [11- multiple [11- 13:1, 13:10, 54:11, 56:2,
18:9, 26:13, 44:6 80:24 20:18,26:22, 56:21, 58:18,
38:12, 48:23, most [81- 14:1, MUNNS (1)- 2:4 39:11, 61:7.66:1, Oak [1] - 4:17 60:21, 61:10,
73:8 15:6,32:21 , must[71- 11:21, 77:4 objection Ill- 62:22, 63:21,
mentioned [1] - 36:13, 41:11, 11:23, 12:21, newer [2) - 7:19, 84:8 65:11, 67:19,
50:5 52:1, 64:11, 13:10,14:11, 33:21 obligated [11- 68:19,69:16,
mess [11- 19:8 76:17 19:23, 67:21 newspaper [2] - 23:6 72:6, 74:14,
metal [11- 29:14 motive [1] - mystery [1] - 62:11, 63:3 obligation [51- 75:10, 75:12,
microphone 11] 19:24 37:1 next [9] - 3:2, 34:16,58:6, 76:3, 76:22,
- 41:18 move [31- 6:24, 15:23, 36:9, 44:6, 79:20,80:10, 80:22
might [7] - 15:22, 63:17 45:18,60:19, 81:3 One [21- 30:14,
27:14, 29:8, 33:4, moved [1] - 45:8 68:13,73:18 obligations [21- 77:17
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20:10, 20:13, 27:12 80:9, 80:12, 39:14, 46:23, 5:10, 7:12, 16:9, portions [2] -
27:1, 27:11, 35:7, owner [121- 4:7, 80:19, 80:24 60:1, 60:5, 63:22, 27:18, 32:5, 32:8, 64:19, 64:21
35:9, 66:5 6:9, 9:2, 28:6, Parkway [i] - 64:4, 68:10, 70:3, 73:1 possibility [i] -
onus [11- 74:4 28:10, 31:13, 3:14 70:6, 71:12, Planned [31- 76:20
open (21- 8:15, 34:22, 34:23, part [9] - 7:2, 71:21, 72:19, 3:8, 3:10, 4:21 post [7] - 6:22,
47:17 35:9, 78:1, 78:12, 7:21, 10:21, 34:7, 81:17, 83:5, 86:8 planned [31- 7:4, 7:9, 36:21,
open -ended [1] 80:2 48:9, 49:15, people's [2] - 6:1, 15:14, 31:23 80:7, 80:17, 81:8
- 47:17 owners [1i] - 51:17, 55:23, 18:4, 21:2 planning [11- posting (1] -
operating [i] - 22:21, 28:14, 65:16 per [2] - 58:17, 18:7 81:3
68 :22 28:15, 28:16, partial [3] - 72:7, 74:11 plant [1] - 34:13 postpone [i] -
opportunities 28:17, 33:14, 78:15, 78:19 percent [i] - plant -type (i1- 68:13
[11- 46:18 63:7, 64:20, 78:4, participate [11- 74:1 34:13 potato [1] - 19:7
opportunity [2] - 84:5, 84:15 33:1 perhaps [2] - planted [1] - Potterville [1] -
44:18, 56:10 owns [1] - 76:15 participating [11 5:3, 48:10 74:7 17:24
option (i1- 66:5 - 33:6 period [8] - 7:23, plantings 13] - POWELL [t] -
orderly [z] - 5:4, P particularly [i] - 33:7, 34:18, 7:20, 70:1, 70:4 2:15
36:24 15:7 34:20, 36:10, plat [81- 5:10, practice [i] -
ordinance 171- parties (2] - 57:20, 58:5, 59:6 6:12, 24:1, 25:21, 3:20
p.m[i] -1:15
27:18, 29:7, 88:13, 88:14 permission [1] - 26:2, 78:19, pre (1 ] - 85:20
37:15, 52:22, package [21- pass (2) - 13:1, 35:13 78:23 pre - paying [i] -
53:4, 53:22, 6 p acket [8] -
packet 53:22 permit [3] - Pledge [1] - 3:1 85:20
pt
58:22 passed [1] - 60:24, 80:16 PLOCHER [1] - precedence p] -
ordinances [51- 11: 11:9, 12:16, 48 :16 permits [51- 2:3 17:17
7:10, 52:21, 53:1, 14:5, 71:15, ,11:9112-16,
1:15, passes p] - 39:15, 39:17, plumbers pi - precisely 11] -
53:16, 57:3 86:18, 86:19, 87:4 28:20 40:17, 40:22, 64:3 4:24
original [271- page [i1 -11:4 past [41- 13:4, 42:8 plus [11- 86:14 prefer [z1- 69:1,
8:17, 13:7, 14:11, 14:18, 45:18, petition poi - podium [1] - 69:12
22:17, 23:20, Pages [2] - 88:7 60:3 3:5, 4:20, 5:18, 9:17 preferably [ -
25:19, 26:3, 27:6, Pages [2] - 49:7, path (i] - 73:1 24:16, 27:11, point [121- 8:7, 41:18
68:9
. 31:4, 31:14, patting [11- 28:1, 28:7, 31:6, 9:20, 20:10, preliminary [l] -
31:15, 33:17, 31:22 56:9, 62:9
paid [4] - 30:4, 30:17, 42:16, 5:9
'
34:7, 37:13, 30:9, 30:13, 54:5 pave (21- 74:13, petitioner [151- 55:13, 59:23, premier [�
panicked [�1- P ] -
48:10, 49:3, 49:8, 18:14 81:16 3:5, 3:16, 3:21, 66:8, 71:11, 73:2, 16:4
56:23, 57:23, paved [i] - 9:4, 12:17, 13:17, 74:10, 76:8 prepare [i] -
61:23, 68:4, 73:9, paper [4] - 22:1, 74:19 13:19,13:21,
22:2 67:19 pointed [1] - 11:14
, ,
73:11, 79:21, pay [151- 13:10, 37:23, 38:10, 49 :20 prepared [2] -
86:20, 88:17 27:21, 30:5,
67:21 60:2, 63:16, points [1] - 31:20, 44:19
originally 14] - Paperwork [11- 33:15, 37:8, 46:3, 78:17, 84:8, 84:9 68:11 prepay [1] - 62:3
4:2, 5:24, 18:12, 73:6 46:12, 52:6, petitioner's [z] - policies [2] - presentable [1] -
31:16 paragraph p[7] - 61:12, 61:13, 60:4, 78:16 14:10, 78:22 28:22
otherwise [2] - 22:19, 26:17, 61:16, 64:21, phases [l] - 5:8
policy (a1- presented [1] -
11:19, 23:1 65:5, 72:14, pick (i] - 48:18
48:22, 49:19, 13:17, 13:22, 18:12
49:23, 57:1, 57:5
ought 1�1- 32:18 83:11 picked [3] - 63:24, 72:7 president [a1-
ourselves (11- parallel [t] - pay -as- you -go- 48:19, 48:21, pond [3] - 7:12, 38:21
83:6
72.21 type [i] - 72:14 62:21 9:12, 45:18 pressure pi -
outcome [i] - parcels 131 - payable pi - piece [2] - 21:24,
ponds [n] - 67:2
88:15 26:8, 26:21, 85:11 29:14 7:14, 7:16, 8:11, pretty [31-
pieces [1 1- 45:8
outiot [t1- 42:4 27:10 paying [8] - P 27:14, 27:17, 29:15, 29:18,
outside (51- 6:2; Park [151- 8:19, 12:13, 33:7, pile [i] - 29:14 34:1, 34:9, 45:3, 68:6
6:5, 58:11, 72:19, 30:15, 30:17, 33 :15, 45:16, place [11] - 45:15, 50:5, 57:9, price [3] - 35:22,
37:12, 37:16,
79:13 52:7, 59:19, 20:17, 20:21, 57:18, 58:6, 54:20, 64:24
overall pl - 5:9 73:7 73:9, 73:14, 64:19, 85:20 34:19, 36:12, 69:16, 69:19, primarily [z] -
overview p] - 75 :9, 79.19, payment [1] - 38:4, 40:10, 66:1, 70:2, 83:1
4:20, 5:23
79:20, 79:22, p Princeton 12] -
11:4 37:10 70:8, 74:12, poor [�] - 18:17
79:24, 85:14 77:14, 88:10
own [�] - 6:10, payments [�1- portion [121 - 43:22, 54:5
parks (11- 85:14
10:14, 18:16, 44:24 placed [i] - 6:13, 6:19, 7:6, principals 121 -
parkway (131-
24:14, 27:2, Pelosi [1] - 13:1 34:19 36:18, 50:24, 4:16, 40:13
64:20, 69:14 55:20, 56:2, 56:7, eo le zo - Plainfield [2] - 51:1, 51:9, 51:12,
74:2, 74:7, 78:24, P P [ ] problem [5] -
owned [31- 12:8, 13:2, 13:24, 38:22, 39:5 • 65:11, 65:15, 39:10, 39:14,
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48:9, 54:17, 70:6 proud [1] - 43:21 68:23, 70:2, 70:8, reached [1] - refer [2] - 22:1, 88:4
procedure [1] - proves [1] - 74:6, 77:12, 14:2 44:17 represent [21 -
68:22 11:18 77:13, 81:4, read [1 1] -13:7, reference [2] - 3:21, 38:11
PROCEEDING provide [2) - 81:15, 81:23, 22:14, 26:10, 38:9, 49:19 representing [1]
S [1] -1:12 30:15, 86:11 82:5, 86:13 44:15, 44:18, referenced [1] - - 78:15
proceedings [21 provided [1] - puts [11- 74:4 46:15, 48:17, 58:23 reproduced [1] -
- 87:9, 88:5 53:10 putting [31- 64:11, 72:5, referencing [11- 88:20
Proceedings [1] provides [1] - 24:10,33:9, 73:12 49:3 reputable [21-
- 88:7 34:17 43:17 reading [3] - referendums [1] 9:5, 36:3
process pi - public [28] - 3:3, 45:13, 48:1, - 40:19 request [2] -
5:12 3:4, 3:18, 7:3, Q 48:22 reflect [11- 12:2, 13:13
profiles 11] - 7:8,11:1, 11:2, ready 111- 6:23 20:20 requested (5] -
36:5 11:12, 11:21, real [91- 3:12, regard [3] - 10:8,11:3, 75:13,
quality [8] -
profit [s] - 8:3, 13:20, 22:7, 33:2, q 38:22; 39:10, 38:10, 83:17 78:17, 81:2
10:14,14:16, 33:3, 37:2, 50:12, 22:8, 24:19, 32:7, 43:20, 44:10, regarding [21- requesting [41-
18:16, 19:4, 19:6 50:19, 55:9, 57:3, 40:9, 42:23, 47:6, 54:16, 78:14, 79:19 3:7, 10:13,14:9,
profiteering 111 -
58:23, 59:9, 46:19 62:14 regardless quarter [2] - [11- 72:6
19:12 71:12, 71:20, realize [11- 57:2 61:18 requests [2] -
74:22, 76:9
profits [1] - 79:1, 80:5, 80:22, really [11] - 42:8, reimbursed [11- 5:21, 8:9
18:24 83:23, 87:7, questioned [1] - 43:3, 45:10, 63:1, 74:1 required [121 -
program [21- 87:10 42'2 66:2, 66:24, 67:2, reimbursing (1) 11:13, 23:20,
39:21, 72:14 publication [21- questions [n] - 68:3, 68:8, 69:3, - 80:3 24:24, 25:1,
project 121 - 6:7,
62:12, 63:4 8:23, 22:5, 22:6, 70:8 related 121 - 28:21, 29:6, 51:9,
37:20,
36:15 PUD [9] - 5:19, 30:22, realtor[1) - 16:2 88:12, 88:13 57:15, 62:10,
8:17 8:22 9:8 41:11, 42:6, realtors [ 1 1 - relating 11- 63:5, 66:10,
promise[1]- 59:17, 62:2, 62:7, g
17:11 31:15, 48:14, 40:23 23 :22 79:22
promised [4] -
56:23, 62:10, 63:9, 64:12, reason [51- relationship [1) requirement [2]
18:19, 22:10, 72:4 13:13, 46:3, 67:5, - 10:5 - 26:11, 50:23
82:13, 83:14,
85:3 requirements
23:16, 24:20 pulled [31- 75:17, 81:12 relatively [1] -
q
promoted [1] - 40:17, 40:22, reassured [ 1 1 - 84:4 [11- 15:5
40:22
58:13 42:8 0: r[11- 68:15 relied [1] - 47:8 requires [1] -
proper [1] -16:9 pulling [1] - quickly [2] -
receipt [t] - relief [2] - 37:18, 37:14
properly pi - 39:17 30:24, 84:4 32:12 85:16 requiring [11-
60:5 pulls [11- 80:15 received [81- remain [1] - 82:5
unched [1] - quit [1] - 17:2 10:16, 11:3, 14:7, 79:20 research [21 -
properties [1] - P
quite 12] - 14:5, -
64:20 17:3 81:20 44:5, 44:7, 44:9, remedies [1] - 11:24, 42:22
property [251 - punished [11- 48:12, 79:24 78 : 5 Reserve [21-
3:12, 4:1, 4:6, quote [4] -
27:4 quotas [11- 19:6 recent [11- remember [4] - 18:21, 32:23
4:11, 4:12, 5:3, Purcell [11- 12:15, 13:15, 69:15 14:20,15:1. resident [21-
43:20
6:10, 6:20, 8:24, 14:8,14:17 Y [11 18:18, 52:23 43:21, 54:6
g [1 recent)
9:8, 20:7, 31:11, purchase [2] -
quoting 11] -
40:17 remove [2] -
residential [151-
31:14, 33:12, 4:10, 12:19 recommend [11 65:12, 81:3 12:6, 12:8, 12:12,
35:3, 35:5, 35:10, purchased [21 - 15:3 - 15 removed [1] -
14:18, 14:21,
36:22, 37:5, 18:13, 54:1 record [121 - 80:11 14:24, 15:6, 23:1,
37:16, 77:19, purchaser [4] - R 24:3, 24:15, 25:1, removing [1] - 25:9, 33:18, 39:3,
77:24, 78:1, 78:4, 22:23, 23:2, 28:3, 28:11, 28:18, 65:15 39:13, 50:18,
80:2 28:17 R2 [5] - 26:13, 30:1, 34:22, renaissance [1] 55:15, 80:14
propose [1] - purchasers [21- 26:15, 51:9, 34:24, 35:9, 37:2, - 39 : 7 residents [e] -
68:12 25:3, 33:1 51:12, 58:8 54:24, 64:7 renders [1] - 10:16, 10:23,
proposed [31- purchases [1] - R4 [4] - 26:12, recorded [7] - 15:6 21:1, 34:4, 53:6,
26:5, 26:18, 47:4 31:10 50:24, 58:8, 58:9 5:11, 8:2, 25:5, repeating 11] - 60:8, 68:15,
prorated [1] - purpose [21- raise [11- 54:6 31:21, 32:9, 66:9, 85:17 73:23
16:16 25:8, 51:11 . rammed [11- 66:17 replace [11- residents' [11-
protect [3] - purposes pi - 52:16 recover [11- 5:1 74.24 33:19
18:8,19:10, 8:20 ran [11- 37:3 recreation [1] - Report [1] - 88:7 resolution [1] -
20:24 put [20] - 7:20, range [1] - 40:18 8:20 report [21- 1:12, 52:23
protecting pi - 18:8, 20:17, rates [11- 60:16 red [1] - 15:13 77:23 respect (8) -
21:15 27:23, 34:19, rather [1] - 74:7 reduce [11- 81:8 reported [1] - 21:4, 39:1, 40:4,
protection [1] - 37:7, 57:15, ravine [1] - reduced [1] - 88 : 5 58:7, 63:15,
33:20 66:11, 67:2, 72:22 13:12 Reporter p] - 84:16
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respond [2] - 75:21, 76:15, schools [1] - separate [1] - 57:19 3:15, 24:10, 46:4
22:6, 63:22 76:18, 77:12, 85:13 6:3 signatories [1] - someplace [1] -
responded [1] - 77:13 ' Scott's [1] - served [1] -'32:3 28:15 9:22
44:6 roads [4] - 6:20, 29:11 Service [1] - signed [2] - sometime [1] -
response [2] - 9:22, 33:16, screen [1] - 7:15 40:24 16:8, 88:18 20:5
71:4, 86:2 36:18 season [1] - service [1] - signs [1] - 29:17 sometimes [2] -
responsibility roadway [5] - 9:11 32:22 similar [4) - 17:4,35:19
[s] - 46:21, 55:13, 20:14, 50:20, seasonably [1] - services [4] - 72:7, 78:18, somewhere [1] -
55:16, 59:24, 74:17, 75:1, 63:17 44:12, 45:12, 79:16, 79:17 33:4
60:4, 65:17, 79:10 Second [1] - 49:24, 53:10 simply [3] - son [2] - 55:3,
78:20,79:11, roadways [1] - 78:6 set [4] - 16:20, 31:21, 36:19, 55:4
88:20 79:8 second [6] - 53:12, 59:1, 89:2 41:3 Son [2] - 20:9,
responsible [3] - ROBYN [1] - 2:6 5:22, 6:11, 26:17, setting [2] - simultaneously 20:15
7:23,17:11, rocks [1] - 45:9 46:16,51:17, 17:16, 22:7 [1] - 53:16 song [1] - 18:23
46:23 ROSE [1] - 2:5 84:2 settled [3] - single [3] - 42:4, sons [1] - 45:1
rest [3] - 36:23, roughly [1] - secondly [3] - 13:19,13:22, 58:9, 61:22 sooner [1] - 75:5
51:21, 78:20 61:5 52:5, 54:19, 14:2 single - family [2] souls [1] - 15:24
restaurants [3] - Route [2] - 82:24 seven [2] - - 58:9,61:22 sounds [s] -
39:7, 42:17, 43:8 19:14, 75:24 Secondly [1] - 19:17,56:4 sit [t] - 83:19 12:24, 46:10,
restrictions [8) - ruined [1] - 82:7 15:20 several [2] - site [12] - 15:7, 47:6, 47:13, 72:9
23:7, 23:17, rules [12] - secret [2] - 10:10,22:5 38:17, 40:1, 73:7, source [1] -
23:22, 23:24, 14:14,14:16, 37:10, 40:21 sewer [5] - 73:9, 73:10, 11:22
24:5, 24:7, 24:9, 18:8, 18:16, 19:1, Secretary [3] - 33:16, 37:7, 73:14,75:9, south [2] - 3:13,
24:18 19:10, 20:20, 8:3, 8:7,30:1 78:24, 79:9, 79:19, 79:20, 55:4
results [1] - 65:1 20:22, 21:5, section [3] - 79:12 79 79:24 space [1] - 8:15
resurfacing [1] - 21:17, 71:19, 10:18,12:21, Shadow [4) - sitting [3] - 36:8, Speaker [1] -
75:1 71:20 26:6 19:15, 40:14, 75:6, 77:22 13:1
retail [1] - 43:8 run [5] - 18:14, Section [e] - 42:24, 43:2 situation [3] - SPEAKERPHO
retailers [2] - 60:20, 60:21, 22:16, 23:10, shall [2] - 22:22, 35:16, 79:18, NE [1] - 2:10
41:24,42:16 64:16, 82:6 23:18, 24:23, 73:14 81:12 SPEARS [2] -
retention [1] - run -out [2] - 25:19, 26:17, share [2] - six [5] - 48:22, 2:5,48:4
65:13 60:20, 60:21 30:15, 52:18 12:13, 40:1 49:20, 49:23, special [7] -
return [1] - Ryan [1] - 82:14 secure [1] - 25:8 sheet [2] - 56:3, 83:3 32:22, 44:12,
i 85:20 security [1] - 67:19, 86:15 size [2] - 42:24, 45:12,48:22,
returned [2] - S 81:10 shining [1] - 65:21 49:24, 63:12,
62:19, 62:22 see [18] - 7:13, 16:5 sized [1] - 58:9 70:4
revenue [1] - sacrifice [1 8:24, 9:12, 13:2, shop [1] - 15:17 sleeves [1] - specific [11] -
] -
10:12 40:6 17:9, 31:3, 42:8, shorten [1] - 15:15 31:6, 31:12,
revenues [1] - 42:18, 43:6, 43:9, 58:5 slipped [1] - 31:17, 38:14,
10:14 safety [1] - 68:24 45:11, 47:3, Shorthand [1] - 62:24 44:20, 45:13,
review [1] - 52:13, 71:15, 88:4 slow [1] -14:20 46:2, 47:16, 48:1,
34:13 SALLE [1] - 88:2 71:22, 73:5,73:6, shorthand [2] - slowed [1] - 50:9, 52:14
rezone [1] - 20:6 satisfaction [1] - 7 74:16 88:5, 88:9 81:14 specifically [4] -
saw rhetoric [1] - 9 [1] - show [2] - slower [2] - 23.:9, 42:1,45:10,
saw [3] - 22:1, seeing
15:9 26:6, 65:12 65:22 49:11, 52:15 17:7,17:10 57:4
rid [3] - 37:24, scattered [1] -
seem [1] - 42:5 side [4] - 10:12, smack [1] - 17:4 specifics [2] -
58:15, 58:18 sell [s] - 7:1, 45:20, 55:4, 55:5 small [z] - 8:11, 73:20, 82:17
Ridge [10] - 20:11 15:24,19:20, sidewalk [e] - 56:1 spell [2] - 53:23,
16:15,18:20, schedule [6] - 22 :15, 23:4, 45:16,45:21, smaller [4] - 55:2
38:11, 72:8, 12:18,19:22, 23:13, 36:22, 50:8, 74:5, 80:1, 5:24, 7:14,51:1, spelled [2] -
72:10, 72:14, 60:21, 60:24, 74:3, 80:14 80:4, 80:13, 82:6 58:10 54:18, 66:24
78:15, 78:18, 61:7,61:8 selling [3] - sidewalks [11] - smallest [1] - spelling [1] -
79:6, 81:12 scheduled [1] - 5:14, 35:22, 42:13, 55:9, 16:24 52:14
risk [1] - 85:17 68:2 73:22 55:17,57:13, so.. [3] - 22:3, spending [1] -
road [7] - 1 5:22, schedules [1] - send [2] - 78:10, 74:1, 78:24, 61:24, 84:16 83:23
20:16, 25:3, 68:8 78:13 79:12, 80:8, soft [1] - 15:24 spiel [1] - 64:10
38:18,45:19, scheduling [1] - sense [4] - 7:17, 80:19, 80:24, sold [3] - 41:2, spoken [1] -
63:11
76:2, 80:22 13:5,13:6, 47:2 81:16 42:4,81:15 67:6
Road [s] - 1:15, school [1] - sentence [2] - sign [4] - 8:11, solid [1] - 20:22 SS [1] - 88:1
10:3,20:4, 20:14, 40:19 22:18, 72:6 32:12, 33:24, someone [3] - SSA [39] - 8:10,
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8:14, 25:13, statutes [1] - 29:16, 32:1, 34:4, tank Ill -16:11 52:17 22:22
25:15, 25:17, 62:11 36:18, 42:12, tarp [1] - 29:12 throughout [4] - translate [1] -
25:18, 25:20, statutory [1 ] - 42:14, 49:24, tax [9] - 32:22, 20:11, 30:7, 42:1, 43:10
26:1, 26:7, 26:19, 63:3 51:3, 54:1, 54:7, 40:18,45:23, 43:10 transparency
26:22, 27:5, 27:8, stayed [1] - 66:1 72:8, 72:20, 47:19, 48:24, throw [1] - 21:1 [2] - 11:18, 71:12
32:17, 33:6, stays [1] - 8:18 74:14,75:20, 51:20, 54:3, thrown [1] - transparent [1] -
33:13, 33:19, step [2] - 32:19, 75:23, 76:3, 80:9 62:14, 70:16 29:18 11:23
44:13, 48:7, 50:3, 63:4 subdivisions [2] taxes [1] - 47:23 tied [1] - 66:13 transportation
50:15, 51:2, stick [1] - 16:20 - 4:14, 35:21 taxpayer's [1] - Tim [1] - 64:8 [5] - 38:16, 39:24,
51:13, 52:19, still [14] - 24:22, subject [4] - 18:4 timely [1] - 60:1 74:12, 75:12,
52:20, 53:18, 31:13, 33:16, 8:13, 32:18, taxpayers [4] - title [3] - 25:6, 85:19
55:23, 57:1, 57:3, 34:19, 41:8, 49:24, 59:9 15:12,16:21, 28:4 Treasurer[1]-
57:5, 57:8, 57:22, 41:16, 58:6, Subject [1] - 19:11, 75:5 titled [1] - 35:21 2:15
64:14, 66:1, 62:23, 64:13, 72:3 taxpaying [1] - today [e] - treated [1] -
68:21, 82:20, 66:5, 66:8, 79:22, submittal [1] - 21:15 17,10, 18:23, 18:18
83:8, 83:12 81:9, 85:10 24:1 tears [1] - 21:7 30:3, 38:4, 46:5, tree [2] - 80:5,
SSA's [2] - stimulate [2) - subs [1] - 64:3 technical [1] - 60:14, 71:19, 80:13
32:20, 32:21 39:22, 43:6 substandard [1] 41:15 74:18 trees [9] - 74:2,
Staff [8) - 4:1, stimulus [1] - - 81:18 TEELING [1] - Todd [1] - 59:15 74:6, 78:24,
13:16,13:19, 39:20 substantial [2] - 2 :9 together [3] - 79:12, 80:2, 80:9,
13:21, 27:16, stop [1 ] - 14:21 10:11, 14:9 ten [4] - 17:9, 18:8, 46:3, 86:16 80:19, 80:24,
75:13, 76:1, 81:6 stories [1] - success pi - 17:13, 67:16, tOM [1] - 2:20 81:16
stake [1] - 77:24 43:10 42:19, 43:9, 74:17 tonight [17] - tried [2] - 41:10,
staking [1] - stormwater [4] - 43:10 tendered [1] - 4:8, 8:23, 9:3, 66:20
78:2 34:12, 69:21, successors [2] - 4:6 10:15, 10:18, trip [1] - 44:7
stand [9] - 9:3, 78 :24, 79:9 22:18, 31:9 tenth [1] - 65:20 11:16, 21:14, trouble [1] -
17:1, 18:1,,20:20, story [2] - 42:19, sue [1] - 16:23 term [2] - 31:15, 28:8, 28:9, 44:3, 41:17
21:2, 21:17, 43:9 suit [2] - 88:13, 59:4 44:8, 52:16, troubles [1] -
24:22, 38:22, straight [1] - 88:14 terms [10] - 5:2, 56:22, 60:11, 18:2
39:19 73:3 summarizes [1] 7:16, 12:18,18:5, 63:13, 68:2, 86:4 true [3] - 28:12,
standard [z] - straits [1] - - 8:21 31:4, 31:19, 32:7, tonight's [1] - 33:16, 88:8
37:16, 68:21 67:14 summer [3] - 32:17, 37:12, 11:12 truly [1] - 44:19
standards [7] - strange [1] - 44:22, 51:17, 63:10 took [5] - 10:18, Trust [1] - 13:4
23:11, 23:15, 20 51:21 testimony [t] - 26:20, 37:9, try [7] - 14:14,
27:20, 69:20, strapped [1] - Sunflower [5] - 89:1 38:22, 66:22 19:2, 39:21,
70:9, 81:20, 67:4 69:4, 83:8, 83:11, themselves [3] - top [1] - 54:2 41:12, 56:19,
81:22 street [3] - 84:22, 84:23 4:22, 27:21, 69:6 totally [1] - 6:3 66:22, 82:10
standing [2] - 18:15, 36:10, Sunset [1] - theory [1] - 33:5 touched [1] - trying [6] - 49:1,
30:2, 84:13 75:14 84:22 therefore [1] - 77:18 56:16, 64:14,
stands [1] - Street[1] - 74:13 support [1] - 65:18 town (6] - 15:23, 67:7, 70:8, 72:18
26:15 streets [6] - 10:24 thereof [2] - 21:7, 42:1, 43:5, turn [6] - 5:7,
star[1] - 16:5 45:20, 55:9, supposed [1] - 88:15, 88:18 43:7, 43:11 32:14, 37:17,
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9:10, 9:20, 36:7, 81:18, 82:2 Susan [1] - thick [1] - 68:6 townspeople [1] 80:11
42:8, 72:1, 84:13 strict [1] - 37:15 48:15 thinking [1] - - 18:8 turned [5] - 4:17,
started [3] - strong [1] - 36:6 suspect [2] - 20:16 toy [1] - 64:14 52:1, 55:18,
6:20, 36:19, 42:9 structure [1] - 31:23, 48:19 third [2] - 22:18, track [2] - 72:18, 57:12, 57:19
starts [1] - 49:21 5:20 SUTCLIFF [U - 46:16 81:7 twice [2] - 42:10,
STATE [1] - 88:1 structures [1] - 2:6 thirdly [1] - 6:11 traditional [1] - 54:4
State [3] - 8:3, 23 : 23 sweat [1] - 21:7 threat (1] - 17:2 6:7 twisted [1] -
8:7, 30:1 stuff [2] - 22:14, swoop [1] - 5:16 threaten [1] - traffic [2] - 29:14
state [6] - 3:20, 23:17 system [1] - 16:23 75:16, 82:7 two [21] - 4:13,
11:13, 48:4, sub [1] - 6:3 62:20 three [11] - 11:4, Trail [5] - 3:14, 8:10, 8:11, 8:15,
51:11, 54:23, subcontractor 29:1, 33:23, 45:19, 45:21, 19:17, 22:4,
64:6 [1] - 64:22 T 47:21, 47:22, 56:2, 76:18 32:20, 33:24,
statement [4] - subdivision [28] 54:4, 57:7, 62:21, transactions [1] 45:4, 51:14,
43:13, 63:24, - 3:24, 4:15, 4:17, 63:6, 77:2, 77:13 - 47:9 52:21, 53:1, 57:9,
73:21 5:23, 6:13, 6:24, table [1] - 77:22 three -page [1] - transcript [2] - 60:14, 62:24,
26:18
states [2] - 7 :7, 14:10, 15:15, talks 7 :11 22:17, 11:4 88:9, 88:18 63:9, 71:15, 77:2,
25:20, 28:10 18:11, 21:23, , 74: throats [1] - transferred [t] - 77:13, 78:1,
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type [9] - 6:6, 9:17, 9:21, 11:16, 89:6 West [1 ] - 82:14 works [2] - 5:13,
7:20, 15:9, 33:14, 15:11, 15:14, VITOSH [1] - western [5] - 35:20
34:13, 41:7, 45:9, 17:1, 19:7, 20:13, 1:14 6:19,19:24,20:3, world [1] - 46:17
50:20, 72:14 20:20, 21:2, 22:3, vocal [1] - 10:9 36:18, 51:1 worried [2] -
types [1] - 32:21 24:14, 27:20, vote [8] - 11:16, wetlands [1] - 32:1, 66:23
typically [2] - 28:23, 29:14, 28:9, 46:1, 53:12, 65:14 worth [1] - 47:22
78:22, 80:4 29:21, 35:16, 60:10, 68:1, whatsoever [21- writing[2]-
36:14, 37:17, 68:13,71:16 37:11, 37:18 23:2, 44:8
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45:16, 48:18, 69:5 89:1 4:10, 46:11, 51:7,
48:19, 48:21, voting [1] - 44:8 White [1] - 4:17 64:9, 66:14
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14:16,18:10, 69:19, 72:17, waited [1] - wife [1] - 48:15 year [12] - 13:8,
27:4, 27:6, 29:13, 74:23, 75:4, 75:6, 81:14 28:24, 30:8,
37:4, 51:9, 57:22, WILLIAM [1] -
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60:23, 61:17, 81:19, 82:8, waiving [3] - willing [6] - 39:5, 44:24, 58:5,
62:10, 88:19, 86:13 26:11, 50:23, 15:24, 43:5, 60:21, 65:7, 77:1
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[1] - 32:11 upgrade [1] - wants [4] - wilting [1] - 14:18, 16:3, 17:9,
underground [1] 32:6 16:23, 35:6, 45:7, 56:19 42:21, 43:22,
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unfeasible [2) - 79:13 11:15 -1:6
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unfortunately vacant [4] - 11:5, 12:16, 14:4, 1:16, 2:22,3:6,
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68:9 wonderful [a] -
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3:10, 4:21 versus [a] - weeds [3] - 39:11, 43:3 59:16, 71:6
unit [6] - 6:24, 25:13, 50:13, 28 :24, 66:21, yourselves [1] -
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violation [1] - - 2:7 72'4
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Memorandum
M. 1836 To: City Council
From: Susan Mika, Finance Director
CC: Mayor Burd; Bart Olson, City Administrator
706 Date: May 10, 2010
Subject: Bill List Questions 05-11-10 City Council Agenda
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The following are questions from the May 11, 2010 bill list:
FY 09/10
1. Page 10: Verne Henne Constr. Invoice No. 28425. Is there a $500.00 insurance
deductible expense associated with this repair?
Response: There was not a deductible for this accident. The motorist that hit the pole
was at fault and the claim was submitted for a 100% reimbursement by their insurance
company. Reimbursement for this claim has already been received.
2. Page 14: Metro West COG Invoice No. 393. March Board Meeting at Blackstone for
two people and Board Meeting at Francesas for I person. Who attended?
Also, what is the total FY 09/10 budget approved funds allocated for this line item?
What is the total FY 10/11 budget approved funds allocated for this line item?
Response: Mayor Burd & City Administrator Olson attended the meeting at Blackstone
and City Administrator Olson attended the meeting atFrancesca's. For the FY 09/10
budget $5,800.00 was allocated and for the FY 10 /11 budget, $1,000.00 was allocated.
3. Page 14: Metro West COG Invoice No. 417. Drive down Full Registration for 3 people.
Who attended? Also, what is the total FY 09/10 approved funds allocated for this line
item? What is the total FY 10/11 budget approved funds allocated for this line item?
Response: The Mayor, Alderwoman Sutcliff & Alderwoman Teeling attended. For the
FY 09/10 budget $5,800.00 was allocated and for the FY 10/11 budget $1,000.00 was
allocated.
4. Page 21: Target Bank Invoice No. 041810. 04/18/10 Admin — Coffee $24.00 — Operating
Supplies. PLEASE EXPLAIN (appears to be hosting a coffee at Target Bank??)
Is this a monthly purchase? Does staff have a collection box where employees contribute
towards coffee, as they do soda, water, etc.... in the break room refrigerator?
Also, what is the total FY 09/10 budget approved funds allocated foe this line item?
What is the total FY 10/11 budget approved funds allocated for this line item?
Response: The coffee was purchased at the Target store on the Target Credit Card. As
has been stated in the past, the purchase of coffee is on an as need basis. There is
currently not a "collection box" for contributions for coffee. It is consumed by more than
city staff and with more meetings and workshops being held, the consumption of coffee
has increased. The total money allocated in the FY 09/10 budget for this line is
$7,000.00 and the same amount remains for the FY 10 /11 budget.
5. Page 22: Visa — City, Invoice No. 042610. 04/26/10 Comm/Relations — Custom —
Thinkstock Subscription $799.99. PLEASE PROVIDE DETAILS.
What is the subscription and what benefit does it provide to the city?
Also, what is the budget approved funds allocated for this line item?
What is the total FY 10 /11 budget approved funds for this line item?
Response: The subscription to Thinkstock is a Graphic Design/photo image
subscription. The website contains clip art images that are used exclusively to design
documents promoting city events, the city website etc... The amount allocated in the FY
09/10 budget was $4,000.00 and the amount allocated for the FY 10 /11 budget is
$1,750.00.
6. Page 23: Visa — City, Invoice No. 012610. Administration — Get Well Flowers $53.50.
PLEASE PROVIDE DETAILS. Also, what is the total budget approved funds allocated
for this line item? What is the total FY 10 /11 budget approved funds allocated for this
line item?
Response: The arrangement was sent on behalf of the Mayor and the City to Elizabeth
Ochoa. The amount allocated in the FY 09/10 budget was $150.00 and the same amount
for the FY 10/11 budget.
FY 10 /11
7. Page 28 — Local Gov. News 2010 Annual Membership for $600 — Please provide detail
what Local Gov News. Org is and it's necessity to the City.
Response: This annual fee is for membership to Localgovnews.org's daily newsletter.
This service provides a daily email with links to government and related articles and
stories from across the state and nation. The department heads read this everyday to see
what other cities are doing and discussing to make sure we are current on issues and
trends in governing. When a department head says, in a meeting, "I've seen other cities
do this" or "most cities are doing this" it is likely that information came from the articles
and stories provided in this daily email. I (Bart) expect the staff to remain current on
local government issues, and this is one of the most efficient ways to stay informed.
8. Pgs. 1 and 2: Ron Clark Property: $41,666.67: $41,666.66: $41,666.67.
What is the City's remaining payment for this property?
Response: The final installment ( # 5) is due on or before June 1, 2011. It is stated in the
agreement that this payment is to be for $125,000.00 plus or minus prorations, if
possession has been conveyed to the Purchaser or upon delivery of possession.
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May 11, 2010
To: Police Pension Board
City Council
Subject:Police Pension Activity for Fiscal Year May 1, 2008 to April 30, 2009
(As required by Illinois State Statue 40 ILCS 5/3 -141)
Fiscal 2007 -08 Fiscal 2008 -09 Fiscal 2009 -10 Fiscal 2010 -11
Actual (4/30) Actual (4 /30), Estimated Actual (4/30) Estimated
Balance as of May 1: 2,156,872.18 2,612,538.50 N/A 2740233.35 N/A
Contributions:
Employees: 182,597.35 196,258.23 210,000 201,873.51 200,000.00
I RF Transfers 0 0 0 0 0
Tax Levy: 275,144.21 297,327.74 325,000 311,203,26 325,000.00
Investment Income: 152262.27 - 227377.67 N/A
Total Contributions: 457741.56 493585.97 535000.00 513076.77 525000.00
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ExpensesPaid:
Contribution Refunds 22662.66 6176.56 0.00 0.00 33674.27
Supplies: 13.75 19.40 100.00 0.00 100.00
Legal Fees: 3000.00 2400.00 2600.00 2600.00 2600.00
Accounting /Minutes 1692.50 1475.00 1600.00 1412.50 1000.00
Audit Fees: 3000.00 0.00 2150.00 4030.00 3500.00
IDOI Filing Fees: 1000.00 1475.00 1350.00 1300.00 1600.00
Actuarial Fees: 1300.00 1300.00 1500.00 1500.00 1500.00
Investment Fees: 11352.00 12375.00 15000.00 17104.00 19000.00
Pension Seminars 0.00 0.00 1000.00 100.00 2000.00
IDOI Compliance Fee 316.60 431.37 500.00 526.31 600.00
Retirement Pavments 110000.00 112861.12 113880.60 112579.92 275000.00
Total Expenses 154337.51 138513.45 139680.60
Fiscal Year End Balance: 2612538.50 2740233.35 3645473.42
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Submitted by: /,),a- /LW
William Powell: Treasurer
President Secretary
file: Annual T Rpt 43009.xls
REQUIRED REPORTING TO MUNICIPALITY BY PENSION BOARD
As of 4/30/2010 fiscal year end
(40 ILLS 5/3143) (from Ch. 108 1/2, par. 3143)
Sec. 3143. Report by pension board.
The pension board shall report annually to the city council or
board of trustees of the municipality on the condition of the
pension fund at the end of its most recently completed fiscal
year. The report shall be made prior to the council or board
meeting held for the levying of taxes for the year for which the
report is made.
1. Total Assets (cost): $2,759,119
Total Assets (market value): $2,759,119
2. Estimated receipts during the next succeeding fiscal year from:
Participant Contributions deducted from payroll $203,070
All other sources $297,328
3. Estimated amount required during the next succeeding fiscal year to:
(a) pay all pensions and other obligations provided in this Article $250,716
(b) meet the annual reauirements of the fund as provided in
Sections 3 -125 and 3 -127; Funding Requirement $481,207
4. Total Net Income received from investment of net assets: ($225,010)
Assumed Investment Return: 7.50%
Actual Investment Return: -8.01%
Total Net Income received fi•om investment of net assets (fye 4/30/2007): $181,427
Assumed Investment Return (fye 4/30/2007): 7.50%
Actual Investment Return (fye 4/30/2007): 7.88%
5. Total number of Active Employees that are financially contributing to the fund: 30
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6. Disbursements to:
(i) Annuitants in receipt of a regular retirement pension
Total number of annuitants: 2
Total amount that was disbursed in benefits: 113,881
(ii) Recipients being paid a disability pension
Total number of annuitants 0
Total amount that was disbursed in benefits 0
(iii) Survivors and children in receipt of benefits
Total number of annuitants: 0
Total amount that was disbursed in benefits: 0
7. Funded ratio of the fund 33.4%
8. Unfunded Liability $5,512,957
9. Investment Policy of the pension board under the statutory investment
restrictions imposed on the fund. See attachment.
Certification
I, Todd Overmyer, President of the Police Pension Board, United City of
Yorkville, Kendall County, Illinois, do hereby certify that this document is a true
and correct copy of: "Required Reporting to Municipality By Pension Board" as
outlined in 40 ILCS 5/3143.
Witness my hand this 10th day of May 2010.
Todd Overmyer
President of United City of Yorkville Police Pension Board
MEMO
Date: November 12, 2008
To: Mayor Burd and the Yorkville City Council
From: William Powell, Treasurer
cc: Police Pension Board
Susan Mika, Finance Director
Subject: Required Reporting to Municipality By Pension Board
I have completed the attached "Required Report" which includes Larry Debord's
certification. Below are two remaining clauses of this statute that are directed to
the municipality. My comments are included for your consideration.
40 ILCS 5/3143 (a) Report by pension board
Before the pension board makes its report, the municipality shall have the assets
of the fund and their current market value verified by an independent certified
public accountant of its choice.
Wolf & Company provides the auditing services to both the City and Pension
Board; therefore, it is not necessary to seek additional verification by another
independent certified public accountant.
40 ILCS 5/3143 (b)
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Publication:
The municipality is authorized to publish the report submitted under 40 ILCS 5/3-
143. This publication may be made, without limitation, by publication in a local
newspaper of general circulation in the municipality or by publication on the
municipality's internet website. If the municipality publishes the report, then that
publication must include all of the information submitted by the pension board
under 40 ILCS 5/3143 (a)1 -9.
The City reserves the right to publish; however, this is an unnecessary cost and I
recommend no report publication at this time.
I',
United City of Yorkville Police Pension Fund
Budget: Fiscal 2008 -09 Acutals / Fiscal 09 -10 Budget
Fiscal 06 -07 Fiscal 07 -08 1 Fiscal 08 -09 Fiscal 09 -10 Fiscal 10 -11
Budget Item as of 04/30/08 as of 4/30/09 as of 4/30/10
Revenue Budget Actual Budqet Actual Budget Actual Budget Actual Budget
Beginning Balance NIA 1574459.32 N/A 2,138,331.19 N/A 2,612,538.50 N/A 2,740,233.35 N/A
Ending Balance N/A 2,138,331.19 N/A 2,612,538.50 N/A 2,740,233.35 N/A 3,645,473.42 N/A
Tax Levy 250000.001 248987.74 275000.00 275144.21 300000.00 297327.74 325000.00 311203.26 325000.00
Member Contributions 150000.00 154442.45 200000.00 182597.35 190000.00 196258.23 210000.00 201873.51 200000.00
IMRF 2006 Member Transfers 0.00 46172.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
Expenditures
Supplies 100.00 0.00 100.00 13.75 100.00 19.40 100.00 0.00 100.00
Attorney Fees 2000.00 1200.00 3600.00 3000.00 2400.00 2400.00 2600.00 2600.00 2600.00
Accounting Fees I Minutes 2500.00 860.00 1200.00 1692.50 1800.00 1475.00 1600.00 1412.50 1000.00
Audit Fees 1000.00 0.00 2000.00 3000.00 2200.00 0.00 2150.00 4030.00 3500.00
IDOI Filling Fees 2500.00 0.00 1200.00 1000.00 2000.00 1475.00 1350.00 1300.00 1600.00
Actuarial Fees 1500.00 0.00 1500.00 1300.00 1500.00 1300.00 1500.00 1500.00 1500.00
Investment Fees MVT 5000.00 8266.00 10000.00 11352.00 15000.00 12375.00 15000.00 17104.00 19000.00
Pension Seminars 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1000.00 0.00 1000.00 100.00 2000.00
Contribution Refunds 0.00 0.00 0.00 22662.66 3688.57 6176.56 0.00 0.00 33674.27
Retirement Benefits 0.00 0.00 120000.00 110000.00 112128.00 112861.12 113880.60 112579.92 275000.00
Disability Benefits 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
Spousal Benefits 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
Dependant Benefits 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
IDOI Annual Compliance Fee 150.00 225.95 250.00 316.60 400.00 431.37 500.00 526.31 600.00
Total Expenditures 14750.00 10551.95 139850.00 154337.51 142216.57 138513.45 139680.60 141152.73 340574.27
prepared by: William Powell 05/10/10
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To: City Council
EST --1836 From: Susan Mika, Finance Director
CC: Mayor Burd; Bart Olson, City Administrator
Date: May 10, 2010
Subject: Bill List Questions 05 -11 -10 City Council Agenda
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The following are questions from the May 11, 2010 bill list:
FY 09/10
1. Page 10: Verne Henne Constr. Invoice No. 28425. Is there a $500.00 insurance
deductible expense associated with this repair?
Response: There was not a deductible for this accident. The motorist that hit the pole
was at fault and the claim was submitted for a 100% reimbursement by their insurance
company. Reimbursement for this claim has already been received.
2. Page 14: Metro West COG Invoice No. 393. March Board Meeting at Blackstone for
two people and Board Meeting at Francesas for I person. Who attended?
Also, what is the total FY 09/10 budget approved funds allocated for this line item?
What is the total FY 10/11 budget approved funds allocated for this line item?
Response: Mayor Burd & City Administrator Olson attended the meeting at Blackstone
and City Administrator Olson attended the meeting at Francesca's. For the FY 09/10
budget $5,800.00 was allocated and for the FY 10 /11 budget, $1,000.00 was allocated.
3. Page 14: Metro West COG Invoice No. 417. Drive down Full Registration for 3 people.
Who attended? Also, what is the total FY 09/10 approved funds allocated for this line
item? What is the total FY 10/11 budget approved funds allocated for this line item?
Response: The Mayor, Alderwoman Sutcliff & Alderwoman Teeling attended. For the
FY 09/10 budget $5,800.00 was allocated and for the FY 10/11 budget $1,000.00 was
allocated.
4. Page 21: Target Bank Invoice No. 041810. 04/18/10 Admin – Coffee $24.00 – Operating
Supplies. PLEASE EXPLAIN (appears to be hosting a coffee at Target Bank??)
Is this a monthly purchase? Does staff have a collection box where employees contribute
towards coffee, as they do soda, water, etc.... in the break room refrigerator?
Also, what is the total FY 09/10 budget approved funds allocated foe this line item?
What is the total FY 10/11 budget approved funds allocated for this line item?
Response: The coffee was purchased at the Target store on the Target Credit Card. As
has been stated in the past, the purchase of coffee is on an as need basis. There is
currently not a "collection box" for contributions for coffee. It is consumed by more than
city staff and with more meetings and workshops being held, the consumption of coffee
has increased. The total money allocated in the FY 09/10 budget for this line is
$7,000.00 and the same amount remains for the FY 10 /11 budget.
5. Page 22: Visa — City, Invoice No. 042610. 04/26/10 Comm/Relations — Custom —
Thinkstock Subscription $799.99. PLEASE PROVIDE DETAILS.
What is the subscription and what benefit does it provide to the city?
Also, what is the budget approved funds allocated for this line item?
What is the total FY 10/11 budget approved funds for this line item?
Response: The subscription to Thinkstock is a Graphic Design/photo image
subscription. The website contains clip art images that are used exclusively to design
documents promoting city events, the city website etc... The amount allocated in the FY
09/10 budget was $4,000.00 and the amount allocated for the FY 10/11 budget is
$1,750.00.
6. Page 23: Visa — City, Invoice No. 012610. Administration — Get Well Flowers $53.50.
PLEASE PROVIDE DETAILS. Also, what is the total budget approved funds allocated
for this line item? What is the total FY 10 /11 budget approved funds allocated for this
line item?
Response: The arrangement was sent on behalf of the Mayor and the City to Elizabeth
Ochoa. The amount allocated in the FY 09/10 budget was $150.00 and the same amount
for the FY 10 /11 budget.
FY 10 /11
7. Page 28 — Local Gov. News 2010 Annual Membership for $600 — Please provide detail
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what Local Gov News. Org is and it's necessity to the City.
Response: This annual fee is for membership to Localgovnews.org's daily newsletter.
This service provides a daily email with links to government and related articles and
stories from across the state and nation. The department heads read this everyday to see
what other cities are doing and discussing to make sure we are current on issues and
trends in governing. When a department head says, in a meeting, "I've seen other cities
do this" or "most cities are doing this" it is likely that information came from the articles
and stories provided in this daily email. I (Bart) expect the staff to remain current on
local government issues, and this is one of the most efficient ways to stay informed.
8. Pgs. 1 and 2: Ron Clark Property: $41,666.67: $41,666.66: $41,666.67.
What is the City's remaining payment for this property?
Response: The final installment ( #5) is due on or before June 1, 2011. It is stated in the
agreement that this payment is to be for $125,000.00 plus or minus prorations, if
possession has been conveyed to the Purchaser or upon delivery of possession.
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